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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well its common knowledge that back in the 40's-70's the income tax was higher.
    And going off the knowledge that has been demonstrated here that we must of lived in a Marxist country speaking of the grave evil of social justice..
    Year $10,001 $20,001 $60,001 $100,001 $250,001
    1940 14% 28% 51% 62% 68%
    1942 38% 55% 75% 85% 88%
    1944 41% 59% 81% 92% 94%
    1946 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
    1948 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
    1950 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
    1952 42% 62% 80% 90% 92%
    1954 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
    1956 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
    1958 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
    1960 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
    1962 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
    1964 23% 34% 56% 66% 76%
    1966 - 1976 22% 32% 53% 62% 70%
    1980 18% 24% 54% 59% 70%

    The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2011 (Nominal and Inflation-Adjusted Brackets).
    How does any of this support your claim that "apparently the far right thinks our parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were all Marxists for supporting tax rates far more progressive than anything proposed by the Democrats today".

    It seems that you not only misunderstood the question, you didn't even understand what you said in the first case.

    Perhaps if you relied less on hyperbole and rhetoric your posts would be more coherent.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ohhh this guy....
    This is pathetic...
    If you support economic justice you support Marxist communism!
    On the other hand, you may not be familiar with the term "Social Justice" , its history, and what it means.

    Is this a new phrase to you or did someone mention it and it seemed like a handy and self righteous term to repeat?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Here is a new tid bit that could help explain why public sentiment is changing against OWS....

    After complaining that OWS was not charged equally for permits needed to hold rallies the Tea Party in Richmond received this from the Mayor....


    City Audit Letter Notification

    Ain't that just great?


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Find a Library.

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    But library's are ran by the gov!!! And thats bad and socialist!


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Here is the most recent: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059984970

    Also see pretty much any post by the TurtleDude or Mistervitus.
    That hardly supports your claim. And what is your definition of "The far right"?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How does any of this support your claim that "apparently the far right thinks our parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were all Marxists for supporting tax rates far more progressive than anything proposed by the Democrats today".
    I hope you know that was being a sarcastic knowledge. And i was using some of the knowledge and process of thought to conclusion that the some of the right uses.


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, and this would be a hell of start:

    "PASS HR 1489 ("RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT" H.R. 1489: Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2011 (GovTrack.us) ). THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT. Glass --- Wiki entry summary: The repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act in 1999 effectively removed the separation that previously existed between investment banking which issued securities and commercial banks which accepted deposits. The deregulation also removed conflict of interest prohibitions between investment bankers serving as officers of commercial banks. Most economists believe this repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2011 by allowing Wall Street investment banking firms to gamble with their depositors' money that was held in commercial banks owned or created by the investment firms. Here's detail on repeal in 1999 and how it happened: Glass . Vote Here #1

    USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial crisis in the following notable cases: (insert list of the most clear cut criminal actions). There is a pretty broad consensus that there is a clear group of people who got away with millions / billions illegally and haven't been brought to justice. Boy would this be long overdue and cathartic for millions of Americans. It would also be a shot across the bow for the financial industry. If you watch the solidly researched and awared winning documentary film "Inside Job" that was narrated by Matt Damon (pretty brave Matt!) and do other research, it wouldn't take long to develop the list. Vote Here #2

    CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION which essentially said corporations can spend as much as they want on elections. The result is that corporations can pretty much buy elections. Corporations should be highly limited in ability to contribute to political campaigns no matter what the election and no matter what the form of media. This legislation should also RE-ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES IN THE U.S. SO THAT POLITICAL CANDIDATES ARE GIVEN EQUAL TIME FOR FREE AT REASONABLE INTERVALS IN DAILY PROGRAMMING DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON. The same should extend to other media. Vote Here #3

    CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE. No more GE paying zero or negative taxes. Pass the Buffet Rule on fair taxation so the rich pay their fair share. (If we have a really had a good negotiating position and have the place surrounded, we could actually dial up taxes on millionaires, billionaires and corporations even higher...back to what they once were in the 50's and 60's.Vote Here #4

    CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION and staff it at all levels with proven professionals who get the job done protecting the integrity of the marketplace so citizens and investors are both protected. This agency needs a large staff and needs to be well-funded. It's currently has a joke of a budget and is run by Wall St. insiders who often leave for high ticket cushy jobs with the corporations they were just regulating. Hmmm. Vote Here #5

    CONGRESS PASS SPECIFIC AND EFFECTIVE LAWS LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS AND ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF LOBBYISTS WRITING LEGISLATION THAT ENDS UP ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS. Vote Here #6

    CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" LEGISLATION ELIMINATING THE ABILITY OF FORMER GOVERNMENT REGULATORS GOING TO WORK FOR CORPORATIONS THAT THEY ONCE REGULATED. So, you don't get to work at the FDA for five years playing softball with Pfizer and then go to work for Pfizer making $195,000 a year. While they're at it, Congress should pass specific and effective laws to enforce strict judicial standards of conduct in matters concerning conflicts of interest. So long as judges are culled from the ranks of corporate attorneys the 1% will retain control. Vote Here #7

    ELIMINATE "PERSONHOOD" LEGAL STATUS FOR CORPORATIONS. The film "The Corporation" has a great section on how corporations won "personhood status". THE CORPORATION [2/23] Birth - YouTube . Fast-forward to 2:20. It'll blow your mind. The 14th amendment was supposed to give equal rights to African Americans. It said you "can't deprive a person of life, liberty or property without due process of law". Corporation lawyers wanted corporations to have more power so they basically said "corporations are people." Amazingly, between 1890 and 1910 there were 307 cases brought before the court under the 14th amendment. 288 of these brought by corporations and only 19 by African Americans. 600,000 people were killed to get rights for people and then judges applied those rights to capital and property while stripping them from people. It's time to set this straight. Vote Here #8"

    PICKET: Occupy Wall Street protesters post manifesto of 'demands' - Washington Times
    If you genuinely want to be taken seriously do not just cut and paste, especially from a source that cites Hollywood films to support their contentions.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    But library's are ran by the gov!!! And thats bad and socialist!
    Oh come on man...Are we devolved to this drivel?


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Here is a new tid bit that could help explain why public sentiment is changing against OWS....

    After complaining that OWS was not charged equally for permits needed to hold rallies the Tea Party in Richmond received this from the Mayor....


    City Audit Letter Notification

    Ain't that just great?


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, apparently the far right thinks our parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were all Marxists for supporting tax rates far more progressive than anything proposed by the Democrats today.
    Here we go again, tax rates need to be raised according to liberals. How does that increase tax revenue? Clinton raised tax rates and added 1.55 trillion to the debt.

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