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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I think it was his election that ended hope.

    Nov 2008. That was the month the huge job losses began.
    Right, and there was also that big fairy dust storm that caused employers to fire 2 million of their employees.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

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    And as always, your analysis is completely inane. Of course there are many benchmarks that are worse today; Obama took office just as the worst recession since WWII was approaching its nadir.

    You keep barfing up the same numbers as if they mean something, but they are utterly meaningless without context.
    I doubt seriously that the American people were worse off with a 7.83 Misery Index vs the 19.33 misery index when Reagan took office so how anyone with a brain can all this recession worse for the American people is beyond comprehension and definitely reflects the youth of today.

    You buy the liberal rhetoric so prove that the recession Obama inherited was worse than the one Reagan inherited? I never see anything from you other than the opinions of others and yours. I counter with actual verifiable data that yo uignore.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Right, and there was also that big fairy dust storm that caused employers to fire 2 million of their employees.
    You really are brainwashed, aren't you? Facts and data means nothing to you.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You really are brainwashed, aren't you? Facts and data means nothing to you.
    That's right, in means nothing if you don't view it in context. And viewing it out of context is your thing.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's right, in means nothing if you don't view it in context. And viewing it out of context is your thing.
    Even context doesn't phase an ideologue, Democrats took control of Congress in January 2007 which means the purse strings as well as legislative agenda. Job losses didn't start occurring until mid 2008 and beyond. They continued through most of 2009 even after the Obama stimulus passed for shovel ready projects in Feb. 2009. Guess you missed that context

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Even context doesn't phase an ideologue, Democrats took control of Congress in January 2007 which means the purse strings as well as legislative agenda. Job losses didn't start occurring until mid 2008 and beyond. They continued through most of 2009 even after the Obama stimulus passed for shovel ready projects in Feb. 2009. Guess you missed that context
    See, that's the thing. You actually have to look at the WHOLE context -- not just the parts that support your prefab political spin. Otherwise you just get dismissed.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Right, and there was also that big fairy dust storm that caused employers to fire 2 million of their employees.
    I can see it right here:



    The chart begins with September and October with about 400,000 jobs lost each month (how many new demands for unemployment are there each month after three years of "Hope and Change"?).

    Then we have the election of our first Marxist president. Hope for the future is crushed. He says he is the change he has been waiting for. And the number of jobs lost jumps for just under 400,000 jobs lost to around 600,000 jobs lost (some web sites report as many as 750,000 jobs lost). The job losses stay in that range from November when the one term Marxist president Obama is elected until he uses taxpayer money to fund public sector union jobs in the 50, or is it 57, states.

    We can fix this error the American people made in 2012 if the 53% who pay the federal taxes vote in numbers greater than the 47% who do not pay the federal income tax.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Construction jobs are always temporary that the ****ing point.
    Then why did you call them "temporary" construction jobs? Isn't that rather redundant? The fact is that construction workers are always moving from project to project and this would be a big one for them. Did you know the Teamsters union supports this projects for the jobs it will create?

    And aren't construction jobs for thousands of people a good thing? Wouldn't that get the economy moving better than throwing tax dollars at artificial jobs, or hiring more government employees?

    The Cost Of Obama's Stimulus Plan: $312,500 Per Job (Vote) Created Or Saved (And Guess Who Is Paying It) | ZeroHedge

    Construction jobs are real jobs for a real project that will greatly benefit the American people over the long term.

    You made the false claim that this project would only create "a couple of hundred jobs" and naturally didn't submit a link to support this canard. People like yourself should always submit links to support any statement they make.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Then don't complain about unemployment. There's no magic to jobs. You need employed people who spend. The fewer of those, the less business will invest. Cut government jobs, you have less employed people spending, thus less business expanding or hiring. You have to see the contection between demand and supply. No demand, no one supplies.
    This might come as a surprise to you but government jobs come at a net loss to the system. The Leftists seem to seriously believe that if everyone worked for the government everyone would be employed, there would be a great demand for more services and all Americans would enjoy a much higher standard of living.

    There has to be a revolution in the US education system, and soon.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This might come as a surprise to you but government jobs come at a net loss to the system. The Leftists seem to seriously believe that if everyone worked for the government everyone would be employed, there would be a great demand for more services and all Americans would enjoy a much higher standard of living.

    There has to be a revolution in the US education system, and soon.
    Doesn't really matter does it? No job is a complete loss, right?

    And, no, while I believe in education, it really will not fix all problems. I know how much many want a silver bullet, the fact is business works on a very simple premise. If there are buyers, business will come.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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