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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Pass WTF? The starting point was in the negative when Obama took over on both GDP and jobs.
    Put that on the ballot in 2012 and see how it works out of you. I am sure over 25 million unemployed/unemployed Americans aren't as impressed as you are.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Put that on the ballot in 2012 and see how it works out of you. I am sure over 25 million unemployed/unemployed Americans aren't as impressed as you are.
    Keep on truckin' bro

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    This is ridiculous, Obama has been in office three years and generated the numbers I continue to post that you continue to ignore. It will be the Obama results on the ballot in 2012 not Bush's and if you want to try and convince the voters that Obama is better than Bush who isn't on the ballot, go for it.

    25 million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)154.1 X 16.2% Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    14.8 million unemployed PLUS Discouraged workers Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    2.2 million fewer jobs(bls.gov) Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics ln : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

    4.4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site) Government - Historical Debt Outstanding – Annual Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    1/21/2009 6,307,084,792,840.85 4,317,968,751,468.94 10,625,053,544,309.70

    11/22/2011 10,326,530,350,389.40 4,721,461,154,539.92 15,047,991,504,929.30

    Down grade of U.S. Credit rating(S&P)

    Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.53 The United States Misery Index By Year

    38-44% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
    Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

    US Poverty Hits Record High: 1 in 6 Americans Living Below Poverty Line | Economy Watch
    Report: Poverty hits record level - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com

    “Fast and Furious”, “Wide Receiver”

    Solyndra, Fisker, and Crony Capitalism Jobs Panel Member Whose Solar Firm Won Loan Guarantees Raises 'Conflict Of Interest' Concerns | Fox News

    Solyndra solar power company shuts down 15 months after Obama visit
    Solyndra solar power company shuts down 15 months after Obama visit

    The Tonopah Solar company in Harry Reid's Nevada is getting a $737 million loan from Obama's DOE.
    The project will produce a 110 megawatt power system and employ 45 permanent workers.
    That's costing us just $16 million per job.

    One of the investment partners in this endeavor is Pacific Corporate Group (PCG).
    The PCG executive director is Ron Pelosi who is the brother of Nancy's husband.
    But there is nothing wrong here, is there?

    U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video - ABC News
    U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video - ABC News

    Stimulus failure

    Review & Outlook:Why the Stimulus Failed - WSJ.com
    Gee, where have I seen that before?


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Gee, where have I seen that before?

    You are going to see it a lot between now and election day in 2012. Still waiting for you to refute the numbers.

    Questions to answer

    Are you better off today than you were when Obama took office? Misery Index higher or lower?
    Are there more unemployed today than when Obama took office?
    Are there fewer unemployed today than when Obama took office?
    Is unemployment 8% or less as predicted?
    Has the deficit been halved as promised?
    Is the GDP growth 4% or higher as predicted?

    Those will be questions the voters will answer in 2012

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Nah your doing fine at that.

    BTW Bush also handed Obama a job market that was losing 750k jobs per month.

    Pretty tall order for the new guy coming in.
    The one term Marxist president Obama was elected when? November 2008?
    And when did job losses get really bad?

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    Maybe the American people are to blame.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    [QUOTE=Conservative;1059983352]You are going to see it a lot between now and election day in 2012. Still waiting for you to refute the numbers.

    Questions to answer

    Are you better off today than you were when Obama took office? Misery Index higher or lower?

    A: Better

    Are there more unemployed today than when Obama took office?

    A: The job situation is improving by the month, as opposed to losing over 700,000 every month when he took office

    Are there fewer unemployed today than when Obama took office?

    A: there is positive job growth, versus massive job loss

    Is unemployment 8% or less as predicted?

    A: it was never predicted that unemployment would be 8% or less. That is an oft-repeated lie.

    Has the deficit been halved as promised?

    He promised to do it by 2013. Is it 2013 yet?

    Is the GDP growth 4% or higher as predicted?

    Please post the quote where Obama predicted GDP growth of 4% or higher.

    Those will be questions the voters will answer in 2012
    I don't think so. I think the questions voters will answer will be:

    Has Obama done as well as he should have, given the fact that he inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression?
    Who is most responsible for this sad state of affairs: President Obama, the Republican administration and Congress that dropped this mess in his lap, or the Republican opposition that attempts to thwart his every move?
    Given the trials that the poor and middle class are facing, are we better off with a President who will support a strong safety net, or one who's primarily interested in protecting the rich?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The one term Marxist president Obama was elected when? November 2008?
    And when did job losses get really bad?

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    Maybe the American people are to blame.
    He took office on January 20th, 2009. The economy shed (or shat) about 2,000,000 jobs in the preceding five months.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are going to see it a lot between now and election day in 2012. Still waiting for you to refute the numbers.

    Questions to answer

    Are you better off today than you were when Obama took office? Misery Index higher or lower?

    A: Better

    Are there more unemployed today than when Obama took office?

    A: The job situation is improving by the month, as opposed to losing over 700,000 every month when he took office

    Are there fewer unemployed today than when Obama took office?

    A: there is positive job growth, versus massive job loss

    Is unemployment 8% or less as predicted?

    A: it was never predicted that unemployment would be 8% or less. That is an oft-repeated lie.

    Has the deficit been halved as promised?

    He promised to do it by 2013. Is it 2013 yet?

    Is the GDP growth 4% or higher as predicted?

    Please post the quote where Obama predicted GDP growth of 4% or higher.



    I don't think so. I think the questions voters will answer will be:

    Has Obama done as well as he should have, given the fact that he inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression?
    Who is most responsible for this sad state of affairs: President Obama, the Republican administration and Congress that dropped this mess in his lap, or the Republican opposition that attempts to thwart his every move?
    Given the trials that the poor and middle class are facing, are we better off with a President who will support a strong safety net, or one who's primarily interested in protecting the rich?
    What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?

    The American people are worse off today than they were in 2009 as the misery index shows. It is 12.53 today vs. 7.83 when Obama took office. Compare results to Reagan's his first three years. Parents still paying your tuition?

    Reagan 19.33 14.63 11.77
    Obama 7.83 10.90 12.53

    Job situation isn't improving, there are 2 million more unemployed today than when he took office and 1.9 million fewer employed
    Christina Romer from his Administration made that prediction
    Deficit was to be halved by the end of his first term which is 2012. Think that is going to happen.

    One of us is going to be wrong and anything that votes for another four years of this is out of touch with reality.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post

    What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?

    The American people are worse off today than they were in 2009 as the misery index shows. It is 12.53 today vs. 7.83 when Obama took office. Compare results to Reagan's his first three years. Parents still paying your tuition?

    Reagan 19.33 14.63 11.77
    Obama 7.83 10.90 12.53

    Job situation isn't improving, there are 2 million more unemployed today than when he took office and 1.9 million fewer employed
    Christina Romer from his Administration made that prediction
    Deficit was to be halved by the end of his first term which is 2012. Think that is going to happen.

    One of us is going to be wrong and anything that votes for another four years of this is out of touch with reality.
    And as always, your analysis is completely inane. Of course there are many benchmarks that are worse today; Obama took office just as the worst recession since WWII was approaching its nadir.

    You keep barfing up the same numbers as if they mean something, but they are utterly meaningless without context.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    He took office on January 20th, 2009. The economy shed (or shat) about 2,000,000 jobs in the preceding five months.
    I think it was his election that ended hope.

    Nov 2008. That was the month the huge job losses began.

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