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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Progressive Journalism for Positive Action? Did both of their progressive economists agree?

    Usually I don't concern myself with sources of information. I shall make an exception in this case.
    Maybe you should pay a little better attention to what you're reading. In this case they were simply reprinting an article from McClatchy News Service.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I could make wild predictions like "your" President but what purpose will it serve. Since you won't take responsible for the lies and don't hold him accountable for his failures. Oh, what the hell, let's say 2 million jobs will be created by the passing of the Republican bills.
    What you could do is provide links to independent analysis as I've done. But you can't, of course, because the hodge-podge of environment killing bills you're trying to foist off as a jobs plan is nothing of the kind.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How many taxpayer funded temporary jobs are in the Obama Stimulus 2 program? Isn't 4.4 trillion enough to add to the debt and why would you sadded the taxpayers with another 500 billion dollars to fund jobs that will have to be picked up by the states after the initial funding runs out? First the Federal Taxpayer pays for these jobs and then when the funding runs out then the state taxpayers pick up the cost. Who picks up the Construction job costs?
    Then don't complain about unemployment. There's no magic to jobs. You need employed people who spend. The fewer of those, the less business will invest. Cut government jobs, you have less employed people spending, thus less business expanding or hiring. You have to see the contection between demand and supply. No demand, no one supplies.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Then don't complain about unemployment. There's no magic to jobs. You need employed people who spend. The fewer of those, the less business will invest. Cut government jobs, you have less employed people spending, thus less business expanding or hiring. You have to see the contection between demand and supply. No demand, no one supplies.
    Govt. jobs are offset by the cost to the taxpayers so any benefit is reduced by the debt that occurs from those jobs. Apparently debt that now exceeds our yearly GDP doesn't bother you? Much of the Obama jobs plan focuses on paying for teachers and fire fighters which are state responsibility. Anyway once that money is exhausted who picks up the tab? That is known as "kicking the can down the road" all for personal political gain.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Maybe you should pay a little better attention to what you're reading. In this case they were simply reprinting an article from McClatchy News Service.
    My point was that they have a declared agenda. You might recognize it. I am sure their lean is similar to yours. Given one's particular desire I am certain they could find an economist, or two, who agree with their position.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What you could do is provide links to independent analysis as I've done. But you can't, of course, because the hodge-podge of environment killing bills you're trying to foist off as a jobs plan is nothing of the kind.
    You think posting what economists think is a viable prediction of job creation? Who picks up the cost of those jobs now and after the federal dollars run out? You do understand the difference between public and private sector funding, right?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I can show you how many jobs the Obama Administration has lost since they took office and added 4.4 trillion to the debt. Will that do? You think that things would be worse?
    No you can't. The Obama Administration doesn't sit around firing people and borrowing money.
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You think posting what economists think is a viable prediction of job creation? Who picks up the cost of those jobs now and after the federal dollars run out? You do understand the difference between public and private sector funding, right?
    What I think is that it's absolute bullsh*t to claim that something is a job creation program when you won't even offer a guesstimate as to how many jobs the measure would create -- let alone independent analysis.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You think posting what economists think is a viable prediction of job creation?
    Okay so what would you go by?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No you can't. The Obama Administration doesn't sit around firing people and borrowing money.
    Well there is an old name out of the past, Yes, I can show how many jobs have been lost by posting BLS.gov data and have

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