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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    From your referenced piece:

    [indent]The latest study from Cornellís labor institute says those claims are flawed, because they are pegged to a potential project budget of $7 billion, which could be nearly double what really goes into construction of the U.S. portion of the pipeline. According to TransCanadaís permit application, the capital cost of the U.S. portion of the project is estimated to be $5.4 billion.

    Okay. The estimated budget is approximately 77% of the potential budget...therefore the estimated number of jobs is a mere 15,500 instead of 20,000. I see why you are so concerned.
    There will only a couple of hundred permanent jobs, most of those jobs you mention are temporary construction jobs. Overall the pipeline would hurt the environment.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What I asked you to show was how many jobs the purported Republican jobs plan is projected to create.

    As for Obama, indpendent analysts peg potential job gains at between 1 and 2 million.
    Economists Say Obama Plan Would Create Jobs, But ... | NationofChange

    So again, what are the estimates for the Republicans' so-called plan?
    Progressive Journalism for Positive Action? Did both of their progressive economists agree?

    Usually I don't concern myself with sources of information. I shall make an exception in this case.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I can show you how many jobs the Obama Administration has lost since they took office and added 4.4 trillion to the debt. Will that do? You think that things would be worse?
    The private sector has seen 20 straight months of private sector growth, the public sector is taking it in the shorts because taxes are TOO LOW:

    Private
    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
    2009 -841 -721 -787 -773 -326 -438 -287 -215 -213 -250 -34 -102
    2010 -42 -21 144 229 48 65 93 110 109 143 128 167
    2011 94 261 219 241 99 75 173 72 191 104
    Govenment
    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
    2009 21 -5 -9 113 -60 -64 -13 -16 -23 29 -21 -28
    2010 3 -14 48 48 410 -257 -142 -169 -138 28 -35 -15
    2011 -26 -26 -25 -24 -46 -55 -46 32 -33 -24
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There will only a couple of hundred permanent jobs, most of those jobs you mention are temporary construction jobs. Overall the pipeline would hurt the environment.
    Temporary construction jobs? How many permanent construction jobs do you know of?

    Just a couple of hundred jobs? Do you have a link?

    Hurt the environment? Where and how? Any links?

    Leftists should always supply links.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There will only a couple of hundred permanent jobs, most of those jobs you mention are temporary construction jobs. Overall the pipeline would hurt the environment.
    Uh-huh. About 15,000 well paying jobs for a couple of years is hardly worth mentioning. Especially if the jobs don't have to be paid for by the taxpayers.

    The environment will do just fine without all of your concern.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The private sector has seen 20 straight months of private sector growth, the private sector is taking it in the shorts because taxes are TOO LOW:

    Private
    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
    2009 -841 -721 -787 -773 -326 -438 -287 -215 -213 -250 -34 -102
    2010 -42 -21 144 229 48 65 93 110 109 143 128 167
    2011 94 261 219 241 99 75 173 72 191 104
    Govenment
    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
    2009 21 -5 -9 113 -60 -64 -13 -16 -23 29 -21 -28
    2010 3 -14 48 48 410 -257 -142 -169 -138 28 -35 -15
    2011 -26 -26 -25 -24 -46 -55 -46 32 -33 -24
    Now for the rest of the story and the official one

    Employment-Net job loss 1.9 Million

    2009 142221
    2010 138333
    2011 139323
    140302

    Unemployment-Net loss of 2.0 million

    2009 11919
    2010 14837
    2011 13863
    Oct-11 13931

    Amazing how BLS tells the rest of the story and not just gross numbers

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Temporary construction jobs? How many permanent construction jobs do you know of?

    Just a couple of hundred jobs? Do you have a link?

    Hurt the environment? Where and how? Any links?

    Leftists should always supply links.
    Construction jobs are always temporary that the ****ing point.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama had his chance and failed. Stimulus One spent a lot of money and we still have a net job loss. Have you even read the summary of the Obama jobs plan? Projections are worthless, results matter and we know what Obama's results are. You still want to believe rhetoric and the question is why?
    Stop trying to change the subject! You're touting the alleged Republican jobs program, so show us some estimates of how many jobs that purported jobs program would create!!

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Construction jobs are always temporary that the ****ing point.
    How many taxpayer funded temporary jobs are in the Obama Stimulus 2 program? Isn't 4.4 trillion enough to add to the debt and why would you sadded the taxpayers with another 500 billion dollars to fund jobs that will have to be picked up by the states after the initial funding runs out? First the Federal Taxpayer pays for these jobs and then when the funding runs out then the state taxpayers pick up the cost. Who picks up the Construction job costs?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Stop trying to change the subject! You're touting the alleged Republican jobs program, so show us some estimates of how many jobs that purported jobs program would create!!
    I could make wild predictions like "your" President but what purpose will it serve. Since you won't take responsible for the lies and don't hold him accountable for his failures. Oh, what the hell, let's say 2 million jobs will be created by the passing of the Republican bills.

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