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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The more money you are talking about the greater the increase or decrease.
    Tax rates are set, they are not automatically going up or down based on what you make.
    5.05% and 6.74% reduction on their rates is a whole lot more of a reduction for those in the 1%, than the measly 1.10% the bottom 50% got.



    It isn't surprising that those that don't make a whole lot of money actually have more even tax rates.
    Not if their tax rate remains the same while those who make a whole lot more enjoy a reduction in rates.

    There just isn't much to go after there. Not to mention comparing someone who makes say $1000.00 per week and someone who derives their income from investment return and pays quarterly with ever differing deductions as well as fluctuations in actual gain or loss, is deceptive to say the least.
    HuH? It's not that hard to figure out. The ones that make less have a set rate. There are not that many loop holes and tax shelters they can take advantage as opposed to the rich, which can end up paying a smaller percentage.

    However, if you are advocating for a broader, fairer tax that simplifies the differences and brings everyone into the mix fairly as they should be then I would welcome you to the fold.

    However, I don't think that is the case.
    Not as long as we have Republicans controlling Congress, who have pledged allegiance to a lobbyist that they will not raise taxes, although letting the payroll tax cut expire on the middle class was deemed okay by their Guru, Norquist.
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You only buy what you are told from the leftwing zealots? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?
    Baaa, says the one who is in lockstep with the right-wing zealots.



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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Tax rates are set, they are not automatically going up or down based on what you make.
    5.05% and 6.74% reduction on their rates is a whole lot more of a reduction for those in the 1%, than the measly 1.10% the bottom 50% got.




    Not if their tax rate remains the same while those who make a whole lot more enjoy a reduction in rates.


    HuH? It's not that hard to figure out. The ones that make less have a set rate. There are not that many loop holes and tax shelters they can take advantage as opposed to the rich, which can end up paying a smaller percentage.


    Not as long as we have Republicans controlling Congress, who have pledged allegiance to a lobbyist that they will not raise taxes, although letting the payroll tax on the middle class was deemed okay by their Guru, Norquist.
    Newest talking point from the liberals, the Congress is controlled by the Republicans? amazing loyalty far too many have for the failed ideology that they would promote that lie. Couple of things wrong, first of all the House which is half of the Congress is controlled by the Republicans and the House passed 15 bills that are sitting on the desk of Harry Reid who will not even allow debate on the bills which makes the Senate do nothing not the House

    15 House bills not considered by Senate
    Senate and House in a Blame Game Over Stalled Jobs Legislation - ABC News

    Then there is the issue of Norquist which is another strawman and diversion from the obama record. Here is a great article that the Democrats want people to forget

    Democrats stuck on tax rates: Democrats are stuck on tax rates while GOP seeks reform - OrlandoSentinel.com

    All this in an attempt to divert from the fact that Obama had total control of the Congress and WH his first two years and we do we have to show for it. Liberal lies and distortions along with a very poor record

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Can you provide a link showing how many jobs the Republicans' screw-the-environment program would create?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

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    Can you provide a link showing how many jobs the Republicans' screw-the-environment program would create?
    Thats the most ignorant request I have ever seen.
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Can you provide a link showing how many jobs the Republicans' screw-the-environment program would create?
    The nice thing is that it creates jobs twice - first to screw the environment, then later to try to fix it. If it's not too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Thats the most ignorant request I have ever seen.
    That's the weakest response I've seen here, even from you.

    You think it doesn't make sense to ask what the projected job gains are from the proposed measures? Really?

    These measures are being touted as the Republican jobs plan, but for some reason it's not relevant to ask how many jobs the measures would create?
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Can you provide a link showing how many jobs the Republicans' screw-the-environment program would create?
    I can show you how many jobs the Obama Administration has lost since they took office and added 4.4 trillion to the debt. Will that do? You think that things would be worse?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I can show you how many jobs the Obama Administration has lost since they took office and added 4.4 trillion to the debt. Will that do? You think that things would be worse?
    What I asked you to show was how many jobs the purported Republican jobs plan is projected to create.

    As for Obama, indpendent analysts peg potential job gains at between 1 and 2 million.
    Economists Say Obama Plan Would Create Jobs, But ... | NationofChange

    So again, what are the estimates for the Republicans' so-called plan?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What I asked you to show was how many jobs the purported Republican jobs plan is projected to create.

    As for Obama, indpendent analysts peg potential job gains at between 1 and 2 million.
    Economists Say Obama Plan Would Create Jobs, But ... | NationofChange

    So again, what are the estimates for the Republicans' so-called plan?
    Obama had his chance and failed. Stimulus One spent a lot of money and we still have a net job loss. Have you even read the summary of the Obama jobs plan? Projections are worthless, results matter and we know what Obama's results are. You still want to believe rhetoric and the question is why?

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