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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Barrack Obama just cost the US economy upwards of 20,000 real jobs.
    Sure he did. If you uncritically swallow the ridiculous claims made by the pipeline company. I understand that cigarettes are good for you, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sure he did. If you uncritically swallow the ridiculous claims made by the pipeline company. I understand that cigarettes are good for you, too.
    You only buy what you are told from the leftwing zealots? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You only buy what you are told from the leftwing zealots? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?
    What is it about conservatism that makes people so incredibly gullible?

    TransCanada’s claims that an estimated 20,000 construction and manufacturing jobs would be created if the Obama administration approves the controversial Keystone XL pipeline are “significantly inflated,” according to a new analysis of the project released today.

    The assessment, by the Cornell University Global Labor Institute, concludes that “the construction of Keystone XL will create far fewer jobs in the U.S. than its proponents have claimed and may actually destroy more jobs than it generates.
    Fuel Fix Report: Keystone XL job claims are exaggerated

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What is it about conservatism that makes people so incredibly gullible?



    Fuel Fix Report: Keystone XL job claims are exaggerated
    Gullible? You see, I don't care what you make or pay in taxes. I have no problem with you making as much as you possibly can and am never jealous of what you or anyone else has. I believe you are the gullible one by believing that there aren't personal consequences for poor choices. How are conservatives gullible?

    I am still waiting for you to explain why the Senate is stonewalling debate on the 15 bills passed by the House to create jobs and then how can you or anyone say this is a do nothing House?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sure he did. If you uncritically swallow the ridiculous claims made by the pipeline company. I understand that cigarettes are good for you, too.
    And what ridiculous claims were these? Do you have any links? Do you understand anything at all about pipelines?

    Cigarettes? Please get back to Reality Land.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What is it about conservatism that makes people so incredibly gullible?



    Fuel Fix Report: Keystone XL job claims are exaggerated
    Considering the underlying source of the link you provided, the CUGLI report, it would support both being gullible. The TransCanada claims are based on a Perryman study that made multiple 'assumptions' as to labor levels to construcion AND manufacturing. The Cornell report stated that they didn't accept the premise of the Perryman assumptions then made assumptions of their own concerning construction only. The Cornell study stated that they had 'serious doubts' that the manufactured products would be domestically produced but provided flimsy reasons for their doubt.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What is it about conservatism that makes people so incredibly gullible?
    Fuel Fix Report: Keystone XL job claims are exaggerated
    So you remain convinced that building a pipeline and refining oil in the United States will not create jobs?

    In a statement, API called the Cornell report’s conclusion “preposterous.” The trade group added:

    “The Keystone XL pipeline promises to be a massive job creator, and to attempt to stop its approval is an affront to the 25 million Americans who are either unemployed or underemployed.”
    That's about it.

    It's difficult to believe that anyone would be against oil moving into the United States and have it being refined there but if the President says no, until after the next election anyway, then I suppose the decision is made and the American people will pay. The same sort of short sighted decision was made regarding Alaskan oil as well. It's as though someone is out to deliberately destroy the US economy.

    The Chinese are keen on this oil while the American president punts. This sort of ignorance has stopped being amusing and is becoming dangerous. America is rapidly losing the credibility it once had for decades, and that inevitably makes for a more dangerous world. Meanwhile you can run your cars with little beanie propellers on top I suppose

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    . . .My dad, at his age, was making more 30 years ago than I am today. He got one job, and kept moving up, now he's been there 42 years and has been promoted to second to the top. His salary reflects it, too. He has a college degree in engineering.

    Me, I got a college degree in finance and insurance. I couldn't get a job . . .
    Perhaps it is time to protest against Big Education for providing so very little at such a great cost.

    Engineers are in demand. They almost always are. And when the USA is done there will be other countries where an engineer can go and still earn a good living. You got a worthless degree in finance. My oldest daughter got a worthless degree in Mass Communications. You both had the same experience after graduation.

    If schools told potential students that their proposed degrees would be essentially worthless perhaps more students would pursue hard skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Perhaps it is time to protest against Big Education for providing so very little at such a great cost.

    Engineers are in demand. They almost always are. And when the USA is done there will be other countries where an engineer can go and still earn a good living. You got a worthless degree in finance. My oldest daughter got a worthless degree in Mass Communications. You both had the same experience after graduation.

    If schools told potential students that their proposed degrees would be essentially worthless perhaps more students would pursue hard skills.
    There is no doubt that Blue Collar jobs should be more respected and good trade workers will always be in demand.

    This Keystone Pipeline was favored by the Teamsters and, despite the controversy on numbers, would certainly have created thousands of Blue Collar jobs.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    From your referenced piece:

    [indent]The latest study from Cornell’s labor institute says those claims are flawed, because they are pegged to a potential project budget of $7 billion, which could be nearly double what really goes into construction of the U.S. portion of the pipeline. According to TransCanada’s permit application, the capital cost of the U.S. portion of the project is estimated to be $5.4 billion.

    Okay. The estimated budget is approximately 77% of the potential budget...therefore the estimated number of jobs is a mere 15,500 instead of 20,000. I see why you are so concerned.

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