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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Remember their number one goal is to stop Obama from getting re-elected. Their number one goal is not to do what is right and help out this country but instead is to get Obama out of the white house..

    In McConnell's own words: McConnell: Stopping Obama's re-election still 'single most important' goal | Video Cafe
    The Obama results are helping in that effort and rightly so.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Remember their number one goal is to stop Obama from getting re-elected.
    Now that is a jobs bill we can believe in. That is the real hope and change.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nor is anyone advocating Marx. This is too often the fallback position for someone who really hasn't thought enough.
    . . .

    No Marxism is involved here.
    Actually there is quite a bit of Marxist philosophy involved. Or, if you prefer Marxism-Leninism.

    The progressive income tax is Marxist. Most of this nation has embraced it, knowing nothing else. In the long run it is the way to move the nation from individual responsibility toward central planning, small scale socialism, then European style socialism, then European style economic collapse.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Its funny to watch the liberals who were just OUTRAGED...OUTRAGED I tells ya!!! over Bush's connection to oil companies (while the conveniently ignore democrats investment with oil...banks...brokers...and having unions balls deep in those democrats) now easily dismissing the Obama connection to campaign contributions and the different loans to the failed green companies. Funny...comical...and yet...pathetic...all at the same time.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    For Vets Returning to US, Green Energy Jobs Await

    By ANDY BROWNFIELD Associated Press

    COLUMBUS, Ohio November 26, 2011 (AP)

    Ben Noland served in the U.S. Marine Corps for eight years, then spent 18 months looking for a job.

    "I've probably put my resume in to 300 places in the past year," the 33-year-old Kenton resident said.

    "The farthest I've ever got was a phone interview."

    Noland finally landed a job installing solar panels at Tipping Point Renewable Energy, a Columbus-based solar power company that is hiring only military veterans for its installation crews at a time when unemployment among former service members is outpacing that of civilians.

    Tipping Point's efforts echo those of companies and groups nationwide to hire veterans in the green energy industry. Denver-based nonprofit Veterans Green Jobs is one of the largest, having trained or placed 370 veterans in the last four years.
    For Vets Returning to US, Green Energy Jobs Await - ABC News

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Any of them go to work for Solyndra or Solar One?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Any of them go to work for Solyndra or Solar One?
    No idea. Why? Did you think the green energy field would be the first in the history of the world that didn't count failures among its successes?

    The number of projects providing solar energy more than doubled in the U.S. from 2008 to 2010. In that time, the amount of solar energy generated increased from enough to power 1.4 million homes in 2008 to 3.2 million homes in 2010. Wind energy has increased 1.5 times in capacity over the same time, able to power 39 million homes in 2010, up from 25 million in 2008.

    Renewable energy has been growing fast in Ohio. The number of new projects approved by the state in the first 10 months of 2011 is more than triple that of all of 2010. And of the 2,797 new constructions approved this year, all but 24 were solar power arrays.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No idea. Why? Did you think the green energy field would be the first in the history of the world that didn't count failures among its successes?
    Why? Because if they did they would be unemployed today.

    If solar energy is so good then let the private sector develop it, not the Federal Govt. It is easy to point out gaudy numbers when the base is so low to begin with. Solar has its place just not now and certainly not with taxpayer dollars.

    What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why? Because if they did they would be unemployed today.

    If solar energy is so good then let the private sector develop it, not the Federal Govt. It is easy to point out gaudy numbers when the base is so low to begin with. Solar has its place just not now and certainly not with taxpayer dollars.

    What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty.
    But it's AOK with you that federal subsidies to the oil and coal industries dwarf green energy subsidies, right?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    You know, I hate to say this, but you're closer to being right than most would admit.

    In previous generations, you found a job, worked hard, moved up the ladder of success and retired. That was the norm. Anything else was the exception.

    Nowadays, if you're lucky enough to get a job, it will be a low wage position with no upward mobility. You could literally be answering phones at a receptionist desk for 30 years. 30 years ago, that was unheard of. You might start at receptionist, but you'd eventually move into office management. My neighbor, who is a staunch republican/christian church going lady, actually told me that our generation is the first generation to not have it better than our parents. My dad, at his age, was making more 30 years ago than I am today. He got one job, and kept moving up, now he's been there 42 years and has been promoted to second to the top. His salary reflects it, too. He has a college degree in engineering.

    Me, I got a college degree in finance and insurance. I couldn't get a job and the one I got was punching numbers on a computer for 8 dollars an hour. It didn't pay the bills. I wound up moving back in with my parents because of underemployment. I got another job, pumping jet fuel at an airport, for even less, 6.15 an hour to start, moved to 7.15/hr after I finished training. Well, low and behold, that didn't pay the bills either. So I had to move back in with my parents and saved up and went back to school. NOW, at the age of 32, I'm finally making a living wage but working extremely long hours to do it. The job is ok, benefits are decent, but the hours and lack of a schedule that I can work around are ripping me apart. I have friends I haven't seen since I began working here as I'm always here. Unfortunately, there is no upward mobility here either, the guy I answer to is part owner of the company. The only way I'll make more is if they expand and thus give me more responsibility.

    But at least I was able to purchase a house and move out on my own.

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Come on J-mac....it's pretty obvious to anybody that those guys are doing some form of counter protests to the occupy crowd which is why the lady comes up and points out that you can't feed a family on the majority of those adds.

    The fact is, beyond partisan stunts like this (I can show you plenty of people going around making Tea Partiers look like idiots and racists) there are many more unemployed people than jobs in this country. Maybe if we had low unemployment rates you could make the argument that people just don't want to work. The fact is most people are stuck with part time jobs so the number of unemployed and underemployed is huge in this country.

    You worked at a job and moved up the ranks. Cases like yours is what made this country great. The fact the new generation isn't experiencing that is a shame and you'd think you support them getting their opportunity.
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