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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't challenge his name. Where do you think this proves what I challeneged you on?

    Glad that made you laugh, that is what I was going for....

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Occupy Wall street, hardly a revolution.

    These days, you need corporate backers like the Koch Bros.
    You mean like Soros? You know his backing is in there right?


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Glad that made you laugh, that is what I was going for....

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    I thought that must have been the case. But you did not address what I challenged you on. Just making sure you knew that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I thought that must have been the case. But you did not address what I challenged you on. Just making sure you knew that.

    Ok, so you want me to pour through Stewart clips to show you what is evident, and plain for everyone to see?

    ok here was an easy one...


    BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Personal Story" segment tonight: another round with our pal Jon Stewart. Earlier this week, Stewart took on the Congressman Steve Cohen-Nazi controversy. You may remember this:

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    REP. STEVE COHEN, D-TENN.: They say it's a government takeover of health care, a big lie. Just like Goebbels, you say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually people believe it. The Germans said enough about the Jews, and people believed it, and you had the Holocaust.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: Well, Cohen was roundly criticized for that statement for two reasons. First, because he compared those who opposed Obamacare as spreading Nazi-like propaganda, a falsehood. And second, he did that just days after President Obama called for civility in the national debate in a speech in Arizona.

    Congressman Cohen made a huge mistake, no question. But Jon Stewart sees it a bit differently. He did not defend Cohen. He didn't defend the man. But he believes there's hypocrisy in play and that I, your humble correspondent, am a part of it.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: If you look back at what happened in Germany, you cannot escape the similarities between what Hitler and his cutthroats did back then and the hate-filled blogs, what they're doing now.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: That clip was from February 28, 2008, and it was edited by the Stewart folks. They played it on the broadcast. Here's the whole thing:

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: Israel Gobstein, Silver Spring, Maryland: "Mr. O'Reilly, I'm surprised at your lapse of judgment, comparing the tactics of the Nazis to The Huffington Post. I lost many members of my family to the Holocaust, and the meaning of their deaths means more than a comparison to a meaningless blog."

    Now, first of all, I appreciate your letter very much, sir, and I've thought about it. If you look back at what happened in Germany, you cannot escape the similarities between what Hitler and his cutthroats did back then and the hate-filled blogs, what they're doing now.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: And here is the context to that letter and that statement. On February 17, 2008, Nancy Reagan fell, fell down and had to be taken to the hospital. Shortly after that, this appeared on The Huffington Post: "Like her evil husband, she has lived far too long. Here's hoping the hag suffers for several weeks, then croaks in the tub."

    I submit to you, ladies and gentlemen, that my comparison to the vile Nazi propaganda machine is dead-on. You can make the call on that.

    Jon Stewart didn't mention Nancy Reagan or the context of my remarks. He just used a short clip of a much longer statement, no setup whatsoever.

    If Stewart were a journalist, I would pound him into pudding. But he's not; he's a comedian, and as such, has license to take things out of context for entertainment purposes.

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    Carry on...


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You mean like Soros? You know his backing is in there right?

    Did Soros foot the bill for the various Tea Bagger days around D.C.?

    Does Soros buy candidates based on what positions benefit only him and his businesses?

    Do the Koch brother encourage the raising of their taxes?


    Comparing far-rightie billionaires to moderate and progressive billionaires FAILS right out of the gate.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    While the movement is losing approval, the ideas it is pushing are gaining approval.
    66% now believe that the US has a wealth distribution problem. This has not been above 50% since the Great Depression.
    Approval for universal healthcare is rising.
    Approval for cutting Medicare and Social Security is dropping.
    Approval for more regulation of Wall Street and banking is rising.
    Approval of public-sector unions is rising.
    That means the end of the USA will just come sooner.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so you want me to pour through Stewart clips to show you what is evident, and plain for everyone to see?

    ok here was an easy one...




    Carry on...


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    I hope you have something better than this. He really doesn't show anything that is really out of context to Stewart's comments. Did you notice that he didn't actually show Stewart's clip? Not just the entire clip, but any of it.

    This is what it was about:

    Although the majority of Fox News pundits spoke out against Nazi name-calling, it was Megyn Kelly who took it to a hypocritical level by saying that kind of rhetoric doesn't exist on Fox News.

    Jon Stewart Calls Out Fox News' Nazi Hypocrisy (VIDEO)

    Try this for some fun:

    Fox News Uses "Nazi" The Way 16-year Olds Use "Like" - Business Insider

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Did Soros foot the bill for the various Tea Bagger days around D.C.?
    Nope, but he does fund OWS, and the groups trying to co opt it....

    Radical anti-American billionaire George Soros​ is a major backer of a left-wing group that is funneling money to the Occupy Wall Street movement.

    The nonprofit organization at the receiving end of Soros’ largesse, Alliance for Global Justice, is managing donations benefiting the communists, socialists, anarchists and hippies now occupying Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan. As of Oct. 19, OWS had taken in a grand total of $435,000 from all sources, including donations made by individuals online and in person, according to reports.

    It should surprise no one that Soros (net worth: $22 billion), the ultimate Wall Street insider and preeminent funder of the activist Left today, embraces Occupy Wall Street.

    George Soros Funds Occupy Wall Street - HUMAN EVENTS

    Does Soros buy candidates based on what positions benefit only him and his businesses?

    Absolutely, and further buys the people in charge of overseeing our election process thus corrupting it....Think Franken....

    History's most notorious Georgian-turned-Russian, the politically astute Joseph Stalin once remarked, "The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

    The lesson has not been lost on the increasingly notorious Hungarian-cum-American George Soros.

    A group backed by Soros is gearing up to steal the 2012 election for President Obama and congressional Democrats by installing left-wing Democrats as secretaries of state across the nation. From such posts, secretaries of state can help tilt the electoral playing field.

    This is, of course, the same Soros, the same hyperpolitical left-wing philanthropist who makes no secret of his intention to destroy capitalism. In an interview with Der Spiegel last year, Soros said European-style socialism "is exactly what we need now. I am against market fundamentalism. I think this propaganda that government involvement is always bad has been very successful -- but also very harmful to our society."

    The American Spectator : Soros Eyes Secretaries
    Do the Koch brother encourage the raising of their taxes?
    Well, that would be dumb. Should they or something?

    Comparing far-rightie billionaires to moderate and progressive billionaires FAILS right out of the gate.
    Soros? George Soros? Moderate? :ROFL:


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    That means the end of the USA will just come sooner.
    I'd say it means that Americans are waking up to the fact that, since they actually like a lot of what the government does, they may actually have to pony up for it.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Is Obama Marxist? Or is he a Nazi?
    You're getting your stuff all mixed up.
    He's actually a satanic islamo-communist nazi

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