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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You are something of an authority on completely unwarranted arrogance, I will give you that.
    I think you judge much from typed word. You seem to come to conclusion without ever meeting someone, purely based on ideology. I'd say that is the real arrogance.


    How about a few examples to illustrate what you're talking about? You mean like when Clinton raised taxes and cut spending, thus balancing the budget?
    Oh, you mean when Newt, and the republican congress forced Clinton to reform welfare, and balance a budget to save his re election bid?


    Who elected you the arbiter of what opinions other people may or may not express? Are you blind to the absolute irony of your comment?
    Never said you couldn't express your opinion, as wrong as I believe it to be....See what you did there is an actual strawman....pay attention now.

    Actually it has absolutely nothing to do with jealousy. That is a pathetic wingnut talking point that you should really try to get past.
    It is absolutely a jealousy based argument...."Whaaaa!....It isn't fair that the rich have so much, we should take it....Whaaaaa!"


    Yes, I agree that everyone should be paying more. But it needs to be much more progressive than it has been in recent years.
    So broaden the base, make more contribute in, and lower over all rates while doing away with some deductions and revenues will flood in. This has been proven, unless you think Kennedy was wrong?

    Really, get over the jealousy canard. It has no basis in fact and it just makes you look stupider.
    Anyone that uses a word like "stupider" should not talk.

    You've compounded multiple strawman arguments into one sentence and that's bad enough.
    You obviously don't know what a strawman argument is....Back to school son.

    No one claims that bumping the top income rate a few percent is going to solve income inequality. Nor is going to destroy the wealthy if they have to pay historically average income tax rates. Believe me, taxes on the rich have been *much* higher in the past, and they didn't go anywhere.
    And if you actually read my arguments, you'd know that I am not totally against a rate increase, if they are done only after spending cuts are enacted. We don't trust liberal progressives anymore.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Of course, but not in a way that changes what was said. No splicing to make it seem like they said something they didn't. Sorry, j. You're just trying to excuse poor behavior that you want to be what it isn't.
    Now Joe, you are really stretching the limits of credibility here....Stewart, or Liebowitz as his real name would reveal, absolutely does splice, edit, selectively, and out of context take utterances of republicans to make them look foolish. That is his shtick. But, you think he is news so.......


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Now Joe, you are really stretching the limits of credibility here....Stewart, or Liebowitz as his real name would reveal, absolutely does splice, edit, selectively, and out of context take utterances of republicans to make them look foolish. That is his shtick. But, you think he is news so.......


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    By all means, prove that. I've actuall seen a couple of those he shows, and he has done nothing of the kind with the ones I saw. But feel free, actually show a section unspliced that is different than he present.

    And no, I think he is news. Nor do I think Hannity, Beck, O'Rielly, Obeman or Maddow are news either. Stewart's just often more accurate than they are.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are his clips edited?


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    Is there something wrong in the clips or are you just diverting attention?
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    By all means, prove that.
    Jon Stewart (born Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz)

    Jon Stewart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    There you go.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Is there something wrong in the clips or are you just diverting attention?
    Not at all, they are funny most of the time. And his writing team is genus at poking fun at conservatives. But to say that he never edits to change meaning, or distort for comedic effect, well, that is just a lie.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchtime_ View Post
    Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably - 2012 Decoded

    Does this mean the revolution will be called off?
    Arent some of the OWS people voters?
    Obama is guaranteed a win in 2012. If you dont agree with me, name who will beat him and why.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There you go.

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    I didn't challenge his name. Where do you think this proves what I challeneged you on?


    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchtime_ View Post
    Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably - 2012 Decoded

    Does this mean the revolution will be called off?
    Occupy Wall street, hardly a revolution.

    These days, you need corporate backers like the Koch Bros.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    While the movement is losing approval, the ideas it is pushing are gaining approval.
    66% now believe that the US has a wealth distribution problem. This has not been above 50% since the Great Depression.
    Approval for universal healthcare is rising.
    Approval for cutting Medicare and Social Security is dropping.
    Approval for more regulation of Wall Street and banking is rising.
    Approval of public-sector unions is rising.

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