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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by FFDP666 View Post
    Revenue did go up, but it had nothing to do with the tax cuts, the economy was growing because of the housing boom, just like in the 1980s Reagan tax cuts, were not the source of economic growth, a myriad of other sources were, namely, a huge drop in oil prices.
    That is your opinion, why do you have a problem with people keeping more of what they earn? What is it about liberalism or being a Progressive that creates this kind of loyalty? Obama loves having people like you who seems to believe that the govt. needs the money more than the taxpayers.

    Fact, people with more spendable income means more economic activity and that boosts govt revenue

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    and as a percentage of GDP tax receipts were at their highest in 2000 before those tax cuts were in effect and when the Clinton tax rates were.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by FFDP666 View Post
    To this day, no supply side supporter can directly show a link between their tax cuts and the economy growing, NOT when so many other economic factors come into play.
    Right, all supply siders can do is post actual results showing govt. revenue and economic growth rising AFTER the tax cuts where they were declining before

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is your opinion, why do you have a problem with people keeping more of what they earn? What is it about liberalism or being a Progressive that creates this kind of loyalty? Obama loves having people like you who seems to believe that the govt. needs the money more than the taxpayers.

    Fact, people with more spendable income means more economic activity and that boosts govt revenue
    Ok fine, its my opinion, but can you admit that I at least have SOMETHING to back up what I am saying? just try and play devils advocate for a sec. So in my opinion, since that revenue was already there from the booming economoy, the Bush tax cuts, costed us a great deal of revenue, WHILE we were (still are) in TWO wars.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by FFDP666 View Post
    and as a percentage of GDP tax receipts were at their highest in 2000 before those tax cuts were in effect and when the Clinton tax rates were.
    you tell only part of the story, ignoring that the Clinton tax cuts that went into effect in January 1993 cost the Democrats control of Congress in 1994 and then you ignore the GOP tax reductions of 1997 that Clinton signed. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty that you continue to buy rhetoric and ignore reality?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    I have a rule, that no Conservative can go without bringing up Obama, in any debate about anything.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by FFDP666 View Post
    Ok fine, its my opinion, but can you admit that I at least have SOMETHING to back up what I am saying? just try and play devils advocate for a sec. So in my opinion, since that revenue was already there from the booming economoy, the Bush tax cuts, costed us a great deal of revenue, WHILE we were (still are) in TWO wars.
    Wrong, the increase in spendable income created more economic activity and created demand for jobs. The employment after those tax cuts boomed just like during the Reagan years. Employed people pay more in FIT than unemployed workers. What do you have against people keeping more of their own money and do you believe you keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the govt?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    We have 15.1 trillion in national debt and that doesn't count the SS IOU's which are called assets
    Yes it does...the total national debt includes debt held by public and intragovernmental debt. This intragovernment debt includes social security, gov't pensions and such.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by FFDP666 View Post
    I have a rule, that no Conservative can go without bringing up Obama, in any debate about anything.
    Obama is President TODAY and that basic rule of liberalism is to blame someone else for their own failures and continue to brainwash the young that govt. spending is good and necessary to help people by appealing to the heart instead of focusing on actual data

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Yes it does...the total national debt includes debt held by public and intragovernmental debt. This intragovernment debt includes social security, gov't pensions and such.
    I believe the projected debt is a lot worse than the actual posted public + intergovt. holdings but you are right, I stand corrected. Here is what the CBO says though about the future.

    $120 trillion: The shocking true size of our nation's debt - NYPOST.com

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