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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Whether you like it or not, it will be the Obama results on the ballot in 2012 and those results were generated with a Democrat controlled Congress from 2009-2010 with overwhelming numbers. There is nothing that Obama implemented during that period of time that benefited the private sector and thus the results speak for themselves. Only the true political junkies here including me aren't going to make a hill of beans difference in the 2012 election but the silent majority will. We saw an example of what will happen with the 2010 elections and then gain the 2011 elections where Va and Mississippi turned their legislature over to Republicans.

    Obama cannot run on his record and thus is working on the devisive campaign rhetoric to rile up his base which today is a declining number
    Well...regarding that I will the majority of your post I agree. Ultimately the political junkies are few and far between. His campaign team has apparently said they are going negative (which is an indication he doesn't feel his record is strong).

    As for if the American people trust Newt or Mitt more....we'll have to see.
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by FFDP666 View Post
    85 percent of Americans agree we should raise taxes on the rich...THE END!
    "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

    George Bernard Shaw
    It's quite simple, if you don't like it, you are more than welcome to pack your bags and move to a country where you feel will treat you better.

    And yet, you, Conservative, Turtle, and countless others that complain about this have not left the U.S.

    Wonder why? Oh yeah, because in the long run it really isn't that bad.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Again just to show the control that the Democrats had



    Then there was the November 2010 elections
    seems to me you asked for a pro-conservative policy, and this is one. or is helping small business not something conservatives care for? republicans just vote against obama NO MATTER WHAT.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    47% of income earning households don't pay any FIT so wonder why they would vote on raising taxes on someone else? What exactly does raising taxes on those evil rich people accomplish?
    Lets have a "DID YOU KNOW" moment, shall we? DID YOU KNOW: that income taxes for people who are not rich do not account for the majority of their tax burden, sure the lower income brackets don't pay income tax but thats because they don't have THAT much income to begin with buddy ol pal, which is why the rich freak out when you go after their income tax rates, because thats where most of their tax burden is. So now that we have easily established that a huge majority of Americans want to raise taxes on the rich, why is it a good idea? well its not, by itself, if anyone wanted to get serious about things, we will need to raise taxes on everybody at least a little bit, you can't pay off the debt by just taxing the rich, that being said, its also stupid as hell, to just ignore them as a source of tax revenue, and its not just income tax. We need to massively increase the taxes on the rich investment banker types. Capital gains, dividend tax etc are ungodly low, which is why those rich folks actually pay less in taxes than you or i when it comes to a percentage.

    also cutting spending overseas is a must as well, and maybe even some domestic spending if needed
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's quite simple, if you don't like it, you are more than welcome to pack your bags and move to a country where you feel will treat you better.

    And yet, you, Conservative, Turtle, and countless others that complain about this have not left the U.S.

    Wonder why? Oh yeah, because in the long run it really isn't that bad.
    I did the next best thing, moved to TX so whatever "your" President does will have little affect on me and my family. I am still waiting for someone to explain to the group how raising taxes on the rich benefits anyone and how any rich person made you poorer? Of course i doubt it is about you but more about you lack of understanding as to what the problem is. Do you really think that people who aren't paying any FIT care about raising the taxes on those who are? What will that do for the economy?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    seems to me you asked for a pro-conservative policy, and this is one. or is helping small business not something conservatives care for? republicans just vote against obama NO MATTER WHAT.
    The policy is typical liberal tax policy that comes with strings. Do you even know what that bill does? It helps no one thus got only two Republican votes, all symbolism over substance.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by FFDP666 View Post
    Lets have a "DID YOU KNOW" moment, shall we? DID YOU KNOW: that income taxes for people who are not rich do not account for the majority of their tax burden, sure the lower income brackets don't pay income tax but thats because they don't have THAT much income to begin with buddy ol pal, which is why the rich freak out when you go after their income tax rates, because thats where most of their tax burden is. So now that we have easily established that a huge majority of Americans want to raise taxes on the rich, why is it a good idea? well its not, by itself, if anyone wanted to get serious about things, we will need to raise taxes on everybody at least a little bit, you can't pay off the debt by just taxing the rich, that being said, its also stupid as hell, to just ignore them as a source of tax revenue, and its not just income tax. We need to massively increase the taxes on the rich investment banker types. Capital gains, dividend tax etc are ungodly low, which is why those rich folks actually pay less in taxes than you or i when it comes to a percentage.

    also cutting spending overseas is a must as well, and maybe even some domestic spending if needed
    yes, i do know that thus the joke that liberals make of this issue. FIT funds the FEDERAL GOVT. Do you understand that? how is raising the taxes on one class going to help the economy? How did any rich person hurt you or your family? Those evil rich people now pay for 38% of the Federal Income taxes collected and 47% of income earning households don't pay any Federal Income tax. Is that paying their fair share?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    ...How did any rich person hurt you or your family? Those evil rich people now pay for 38% of the Federal Income taxes collected and 47% of income earning households don't pay any Federal Income tax. Is that paying their fair share?
    life isn't fair. we ask rich people to pay more in taxes than poorer people. its the way it is.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's quite simple, if you don't like it, you are more than welcome to pack your bags and move to a country where you feel will treat you better.

    And yet, you, Conservative, Turtle, and countless others that complain about this have not left the U.S.

    Wonder why? Oh yeah, because in the long run it really isn't that bad.
    The run is no longer that long. The debt continues to increase and there is no national or political will to turn things around. The President has also initiated class warfare as well, turning Americans against each other rather than leading and bringing all Americans together.

    Long run? How long do you think it will last?

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