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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The filibuster had an impact on every bill passed during those two years. If your goal is to pass legislation...then you put forth a bill that you know can beat a filibuster. Every bill passed had to pass a "super majority" because of Republican threats of filibuster.

    Rhetoric is the GOP house passing bills they know will never see the night of day instead of working with Dems and passing things they know will get enough support to pass.
    The GOP didn't have enough votes in the House to make a difference in 2009-2010 but it appears you want to ignore those two years so i am still waiting on the legislation that Obama wanted that was filibustered in the Senate his first two years in office?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

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    What economic policy was filibustered in 2009-2010? name for me the economic policy that obama wanted but didn't get his first two years in office and then explain to me why Harry Reid is holding up 15 GOP job bills and the budget which would create jobs. Keep buying the Obama rhetoric
    You've got to be joking. Republicans have blasted the record for filibusters to smithereens. Just as one example, the repeatedly filibustered the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill. Then, when they could no longer sustain a filibuster, they indicated that they would filibuster Obama's preferred candidate to run the Consumer Protection Bureau. Now that she's dropped out they're filibustering Obama's new nominee despite the fact that he's supported by a majority of Republican state attorneys general and is generally regarded as highly qualified. In fact Republicans have constantly filibustered Obama's nominees, to the point where it's affected agency performance, and even that wasn't enough. Then they tried the unprecedented maneuver of pretending to never go out of session to prevent Obama from making recess appointments. This is, without question, the most obstructive minority in modern history.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

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    You've got to be joking. Republicans have blasted the record for filibusters to smithereens. Just as one example, the repeatedly filibustered the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill. Then, when they could no longer sustain a filibuster, they indicated that they would filibuster Obama's preferred candidate to run the Consumer Protection Bureau. Now that she's dropped out they're filibustering Obama's new nominee despite the fact that he's supported by a majority of Republican state attorneys general and is generally regarded as highly qualified. In fact Republicans have constantly filibustered Obama's nominees, to the point where it's affected agency performance, and even that wasn't enough. Then they tried the unprecedented maneuver of pretending to never go out of session to prevent Obama from making recess appointments. This is, without question, the most obstructive minority in modern history.
    What exactly does any of that have to do with the economic problems this country faces? Did any of those create the 4.5 trillion dollar debt, net job losses, declining labor force, and increase in misery index?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

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    What is fricken amazing is that anyone would support the OWS protests that did nothing but cost the taxpayers millions, led to rapes, civil unrest, drug dealing, and hundreds of arrests. its goals violate the very principles upon which this country was built. Redistribution of wealth and class warfare serve no one.
    The only reason it costs taxpayers millions of dollars is because of the idiots in charge that attacked the Occupy Movement like they were invaders from another nation. Led to rapes? When a large amount of people gather for an extended period of time in an inner city area, yeah the chance for rape is increased dramatically, but the only problem for your disgusting attack on these people, is the rapists had nothing to do with the movement. Civil Unrest in case you are unaware is part of Civil Disobedience, and those people were arrested but it in no way shames the movement at ALL, in fact it shows that they are courageous and brave people who are willing to be arrested and draw attention to such an important issue(s). All that crap you listed involves such as small minority of the people involved, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THE PRINCIPALS THAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED UPON WAS SO THAT GIANT PROFIT MAKING MACHINES COULD DESTROY POLITICAL SYSTEM WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LOBBYING AND POLITICAL INFLUENCE, AND FRAUDULENT INVESTMENT BANKING PRACTICES THAT COLLAPSE OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

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    What exactly does any of that have to do with the economic problems this country faces? Did any of those create the 4.5 trillion dollar debt, net job losses, declining labor force, and increase in misery index?
    It has a whole lot to do with it, insofar as Republicans have done everything possible to prevent Obama from taking measures to address the crisis. If Democrats had acted this way there never would have been Reagan or Bush tax cuts and we would be worrying about depleting the national surplus instead of worrying about adding to the insane debt.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by FFDP666 View Post
    The only reason it costs taxpayers millions of dollars is because of the idiots in charge that attacked the Occupy Movement like they were invaders from another nation. Led to rapes? When a large amount of people gather for an extended period of time in an inner city area, yeah the chance for rape is increased dramatically, but the only problem for your disgusting attack on these people, is the rapists had nothing to do with the movement. Civil Unrest in case you are unaware is part of Civil Disobedience, and those people were arrested but it in no way shames the movement at ALL, in fact it shows that they are courageous and brave people who are willing to be arrested and draw attention to such an important issue(s). All that crap you listed involves such as small minority of the people involved, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THE PRINCIPALS THAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED UPON WAS SO THAT GIANT PROFIT MAKING MACHINES COULD DESTROY POLITICAL SYSTEM WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LOBBYING AND POLITICAL INFLUENCE, AND FRAUDULENT INVESTMENT BANKING PRACTICES THAT COLLAPSE OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY?
    Aw, i can see how successful you are going to be when you get out of school. Doesn't appear to me that you understand a thing about OWS or the right way to go about changing the direction of this country and that would be through the Representative Democracy we have. What purpose does it serve protesting Wall Street when the laws are made in D.C. and Democrats have controlled Congress from 2007-2011?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It has a whole lot to do with it, insofar as Republicans have done everything possible to prevent Obama from taking measures to address the crisis. If Democrats had acted this way there never would have been Reagan or Bush tax cuts and we would be worrying about depleting the national surplus instead of worrying about adding to the insane debt.
    like what? Still waiting?

    Regarding tax cuts, you seem to really have a problem keeping more of what you earn? Apparently in your world have a Govt with a surplus is a good thing. Doesn't appear that you understand the role of the Govt. which isn't to create the nanny state you seem to want.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    And this class warfare nonsense, the class war was started by those in the top percent, not us, they were the ones who bought our politicians and lobbied to get an easier tax code for themselves, get rid themselves of pesky laws and regulations in the financial market, when the free trade crap was passed and they could send more jobs overseas and hide more money in offshore banks, yeah there is a class war going on.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The GOP didn't have enough votes in the House to make a difference in 2009-2010 but it appears you want to ignore those two years so i am still waiting on the legislation that Obama wanted that was filibustered in the Senate his first two years in office?
    Ummm....why exactly are we talking about the House? I never mentioned the House as an issue. It has to go through the Senate which is where the filibusters were threatened.

    He didn't attempt to pass legislation that he knew would be filibustered. He modified it to gain support from Moderate Republicans. He did not have "total control". Do I really need to list all the articles where Republicans threatened a filibuster on legislation from Frank-Dodd to the Stimulus?
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Context has limitations, and three years is plenty of time for the "smartest man ever to hold the office" with total control of the Congress to make a difference but the problem is the difference is negative.
    1st, presidents don't have control. Congress has more, but still limited and not able to fix the problems we ahve. Government is not the answer, especially limited government. If you want to hold government responsible, you have to give government control. I don't advise that. You seem to be arguing for government control, and I don't think you realize it.

    Second, it's not a bad thing to be smart. So, criticising Obama for being smart is kind of silly. That said, being smart doesn't mean you do things outside your ability or what is allowed by law.

    Just saying.. . .

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