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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, I'm pointing out the ridiculous irony of you steadfastly refusing to admit that Obama inherited an absolute hellish economy from Bush while you argue that Bush inherited a recession from Clinton. Amazing hypocrisy.

    For my part, I never denied that Bush inherited a recession from Clinton. That's obvious, just as it's obvious that Obama inherited one from Bush. Of course the one Obama inherited was magnitudes worse, and Obama had far fewer tools at his disposal because Bush had already cut taxes and doubled the national debt.
    What is amazing is that here we are three years after Obama took office and yet you ignore the results generated still blaming Bush. Obama inherited something that he helped create and the results today after adding 4.5 trillion dollars to the National Debt the unemployment is higher than when he took office, the employment is lower, the labor force is lower, and the misery index higher than when he took office. That is reality and you need to live with it.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is amazing is that here we are three years after Obama took office and yet you ignore the results generated still blaming Bush. Obama inherited something that he helped create and the results today after adding 4.5 trillion dollars to the National Debt the unemployment is higher than when he took office, the employment is lower, the labor force is lower, and the misery index higher than when he took office. That is reality and you need to live with it.
    I'm not blaming Bush. I'm simply noting the context in which Obama's performance must be judged. Without context the numbers are meaningless.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm not blaming Bush. I'm simply noting the context in which Obama's performance must be judged. Without context the numbers are meaningless.
    Context has limitations, and three years is plenty of time for the "smartest man ever to hold the office" with total control of the Congress to make a difference but the problem is the difference is negative.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    it freakin amazes me how scared all the Conservatives are that their perfect American empire might be challenged by these people. Fine, continue to turn a blind eye to the problems we face, just keep attacking one man, Obama, who is only really a small part of a larger problem. The only large movement that is going in the right direction is the Occupy Movement, and yeah its not perfect, but I'll continue to support its goals.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So wait... after 2 years, we cut these people off, completley, my how do they live?
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    It's a red herring and irrelevant.
    Why would you bring up welfare as an issue if there is no candidate espousing your view??? It would seem it is your premise which is irrelevant.
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Context has limitations, and three years is plenty of time for the "smartest man ever to hold the office" with total control of the Congress to make a difference but the problem is the difference is negative.
    Don't want to burst any bubbles here but I'm PRETTY sure that Obama didn't have control of congress (that included the house and senate) for 3 years. Even for the small time democrats controlled the house, Obama didn't have any kind of TOTAL CONTROL as you seem to think.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Context has limitations, and three years is plenty of time for the "smartest man ever to hold the office" with total control of the Congress to make a difference but the problem is the difference is negative.
    Did you just make up that quote?

    He also had control for two years and it's obvious by how many filibusters were used that it wasn't "total" control.
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by FFDP666 View Post
    it freakin amazes me how scared all the Conservatives are that their perfect American empire might be challenged by these people. Fine, continue to turn a blind eye to the problems we face, just keep attacking one man, Obama, who is only really a small part of a larger problem. The only large movement that is going in the right direction is the Occupy Movement, and yeah its not perfect, but I'll continue to support its goals.
    What is fricken amazing is that anyone would support the OWS protests that did nothing but cost the taxpayers millions, led to rapes, civil unrest, drug dealing, and hundreds of arrests. its goals violate the very principles upon which this country was built. Redistribution of wealth and class warfare serve no one.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Did you just make up that quote?

    He also had control for two years and it's obvious by how many filibusters were used that it wasn't "total" control.
    What economic policy was filibustered in 2009-2010? name for me the economic policy that obama wanted but didn't get his first two years in office and then explain to me why Harry Reid is holding up 15 GOP job bills and the budget which would create jobs. Keep buying the Obama rhetoric

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What economic policy was filibustered in 2009-2010? name for me the economic policy that obama wanted but didn't get his first two years in office and then explain to me why Harry Reid is holding up 15 GOP job bills and the budget which would create jobs. Keep buying the Obama rhetoric
    The filibuster had an impact on every bill passed during those two years. If your goal is to pass legislation...then you put forth a bill that you know can beat a filibuster. Every bill passed had to pass a "super majority" because of Republican threats of filibuster.

    Rhetoric is the GOP house passing bills they know will never see the night of day instead of working with Dems and passing things they know will get enough support to pass.
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