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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Your right to be you does not supersede my right to be free from you.
    You have no right to be "free" from me. Other than, I can't own you or force you to do something against your will.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You have no right to be "free" from me. Other than, I can't own you or force you to do something against your will.
    Absolutely! I don't have to put up with you, and if you keep after me, then you are absolutely infringing my rights, and breaking the law.


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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Absolutely! I don't have to put up with you, and if you keep after me, then you are absolutely infringing my rights, and breaking the law.


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    That's right. You don't have to put up with me and you can just walk away. I wouldn't chase you down the street to harass you, you ain't worth it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The people demonstrating are "ordinary citizens".
    not really.

    ...After that the mob headed over to the Port of Oakland, the nation's fifth busiest, to shut down commerce. They did so by erecting burning barricades, blocking trucks, and effectively holding drivers hostage. CBS reported that they then hurled chunks of concrete, metal pipes, Roman candles and Molotov cocktails at police.

    The aim? To "shut down the means of production," they said, and "stop the flow of goods," which they did for at least one shift at the busy Oakland port, affecting thousands of workers' jobs...

    The event was heavily populated by well-paid government employees, with some 18% of Oakland's city workers and 5% of its teachers taking holidays to go rioting against their own city and taxpayers.

    And Oakland Mayor Jean Quan actually encouraged them to go. This, just one week after pleading with the federal government for more port funds. She sent her merry protesters to shut the commerce at the port with a taxpayer-provided police escort.

    This is OWS' dirty little secret. They're not the poor or downtrodden. The Daily Caller and New York Post investigated the backgrounds of the 700 people arrested last month for shutting down the Brooklyn Bridge and found nearly all of them to be trust-fund idlers from well-off homes...

    In short, it was the elites on a rampage, declaring war for the first time on those who work and create. But one thing now is clear: It's the takers against the makers.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The government set off the protesters. Had they just left their right to assemble and protest unmolested, this would probably had never happened.
    Thats what I said. No way you can POSSIBLY bring yourself to admit the truth...that the 'peaceful' protesters attacked the cops and set the thing off.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats what I said. No way you can POSSIBLY bring yourself to admit the truth...that the 'peaceful' protesters attacked the cops and set the thing off.
    I'm just giving you another perspective. If it were that through allowing them to stay on the public land and continue to protest would have avoided this whole confrontation, don't you think it'd be worth it?

    Much better keeping them confined to one spot than risking a huge riot. This is Oakland, as soon as a little bit starts to break down; the city will go crazy. That place is essentially a powder keg ready to go off.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's right. You don't have to put up with me and you can just walk away. I wouldn't chase you down the street to harass you, you ain't worth it.
    Hmmmm....Pretty personal attack there Mr. Libertarian...My worthiness is not at question, what is the fact though is that people are indeed being harassed in that manner. So what you would or wouldn't do to me is irrelevant. But I'll take that you are just frustrated, and have no real answer to what I said.


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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm just giving you another perspective. If it were that through allowing them to stay on the public land and continue to protest would have avoided this whole confrontation, don't you think it'd be worth it?

    Much better keeping them confined to one spot than risking a huge riot. This is Oakland, as soon as a little bit starts to break down; the city will go crazy. That place is essentially a powder keg ready to go off.
    The mayor didn't help things by having the protesters evicted and then backing down when she realized the people wouldn't go quietly.

    She should have either let them continue and started negotiations to ensure that the folks were keeping their encampment within safe conditions and allowing her public safety full access..... or stood by her decision to boot them out.


    Now they view her for what she is... weak. And they will continue to tear the city apart.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm just giving you another perspective. If it were that through allowing them to stay on the public land and continue to protest would have avoided this whole confrontation, don't you think it'd be worth it?

    Much better keeping them confined to one spot than risking a huge riot. This is Oakland, as soon as a little bit starts to break down; the city will go crazy. That place is essentially a powder keg ready to go off.
    WHat you are saying is that they ahd the right to do whatever they wanted and when they didnt get to do whatever they wanted they were justified in attacking the police with bottles and rocks. Intsead of marching on city hall...the place where the government officials make the decisions...you excuse and justify their behavior and then are shocked the police responded. You are using infantile logic...at best. Its the equivalent to a bunch of children kicking and stomping and throwing a fit because mommy and daddy didnt let them have their way and then said infant screaming I hate you you poopyheads! and throwing their toys. Yes...JR...a spanking comes next.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    The mayor didn't help things by having the protesters evicted and then backing down when she realized the people wouldn't go quietly.

    She should have either let them continue and started negotiations to ensure that the folks were keeping their encampment within safe conditions and allowing her public safety full access..... or stood by her decision to boot them out.


    Now they view her for what she is... weak. And they will continue to tear the city apart.
    She is not only weak, but has made statements siding with the protesters, and brought about the strike yesterday that caused damage, and loss of commerce. This should disqualify her for any federal government aid what so ever.

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