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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe if the rule of law was being followed with these protests, then the view of the spoiled children wouldn't be so negative.
    Maybe if we had more resolve to live by the consequences and responsibilities of freedom; we wouldn't even be at this point.

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    Oh Brother! Someone call Alex Jones and tell him one got away.
    Don't like that guy. You saying the government doesn't like the drug trade?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not at all and I couldnt be more serious. I want your broskis to keep burning the flags. i want them to keep showing themselves to the good ole US to be the disgusting disrespectful miscreants they are.
    I still don't really see what is "disgusting" about protest which involves burning the American flag. That doesn't necessarily make on "anti-American", it can be a valid display of protest against the government itself.

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    But seriously...you and a few others here promote violent rebellion and you think I'M the one thats coo-coo? Thats comical dood. But hey...heres just a little heads up...like the heee-ro cocaine addict ex marine found out...if it gets real...its not a video game with a bunch of anime characters flinging powerballs at each other. K? So..keep your head down.
    Yeah, playing Devil's advocate can be fun. But in seriousness, I'm not actually promoting violent rebellion. I am interested in seeing where this goes. I do maintain that rebellion and revolt are proper tools of the People. It would be reasonable, in my estimation, that they would need to be employed rarely, but not zero in order to keep government in line.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    For starters, proportional representation in the house, so we could have actual diversity of political opinion.
    We have that now. The way you see the people that you want in office, is to vote them in. If they can't garner the support needed to get elected, then they (you) need to a better job with the message.

    I personally am a registered libertarian, but i'd love to see some greens represented too.
    I lived in Bel Air for 20 years, trust me when I say there is no shortages of clowns on the ballot in Balto.

    belgium has 6 political parties... Could we in the US even imagine that many platforms? I want a diversity of choice, not a false binary system.
    There are more than two parties in the US as it is, that they can't mount a viable race is not the problem of the majority parties, they need to get better.

    Just because he might want OWS, or hope it is his doesn't make it so. Obama, like the last 2 democratic presidents before him, is a real centrist.
    Socialist? Progressive? Liberal? Marxist? Pragmatic liar? maybe all of the listed, but centrist? Hell no...


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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I lived in Bel Air for 20 years
    Before that were you from West Philadelphia?

    *cough*

    Crap....now that song is stuck in my head.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ...ooookay.

    Someone's going coo-coo for coco puffs over here.
    If they're going to start a rebellion, they're going about it all wrong... so either they're too stupid to know what rebellion means and looks like or it's not a rebellion.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Before that were you from West Philadelphia?

    *cough*

    Crap....now that song is stuck in my head.
    Nah, Philly is not where I would want to live...Bel Air, Harford county is like the only conservative country in Maryland. but in the end the overpriced liberal cesspool that the NE is, we felt better getting out when the getting was good. Looks like none too soon....

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Before that were you from West Philadelphia?

    *cough*

    Crap....now that song is stuck in my head.
    Yoho! Smell ya later!


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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    i'm generally very tolerant of protests and rallies.... it's not my bag of tricks, but I don't mind it being others'.
    when it gets to the point of violence and lawlessness, that's where I draw the line...I can no longer be tolerant.

    I don't want to here how the OWS is fighting for their rights to peaceably assemble anymore... it's obvious, at least in Oakland, they are not peacefully assembling, nor are they interested in doing so.
    peacefully protest and march to your hearts contend... but when you start interfering with other peoples property, livelihood, etc... you're no longer exercising your rights, you're infringing on the rights of others.

    kudos to those OWS protestors who are not hypocrites and don't infringe on the rights of others while supposedly fighting for our rights.... to those whom feel it's right and proper to infringe on other peoples rights... I hope you come to the realization , quickly, that you are in the wrong.
    to those OWS who are protesting correctly, I would argue that it would be wise of you to police your fellow protestors who have no respect for the rights of others... if you do not, you'll be caught up in the wide net that will inevitably come down.

    I was rather apathetic over this OWS movement, even while sharing some of it's frustrations... but i'm leaning towards opposing it, only because of the mob actions such as we see in Oakland.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Quite so. Plus with the aggressive nature in which Oakland used its force against the protesters, it should be no surprise that they'd try to retaliate.
    How many times do we have to go over this...

    Are you still denying that use of RCA and LLM is an appropriate response by police in response to being attacked by a mob????

    Are you STILL denying that the mob started the confrontation by trying to RE-TAKE the park by attacking police?

    There are plenty of respectable Occupy movements across the country.... I can't say the same for Oakland, they have turned into a riotous anarchistic mob controlled by Black Bloc ideologists.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Fair play to these protesters at least they are being heard and trying to make a stand. What did we do back in 2008 we sat on our hands and complained about it behind our TV/laptop screen like we are doing now. I give them props for having some balls.
    Yes... having the balls to tear **** up and cause the low wage earner not to be able to make the money needed to feed and house his family by blocking off the port.

    Your right... it takes balls to be a group of assholes.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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