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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

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    Now they view her for what she is... weak. And they will continue to tear the city apart.
    That's one of the main problems in Oakland. It's always on some hardly stable precipice of coherency. A little weakness shown, a small amount of chaos; and the whole thing is likely to explode. This should have been well known to those in charge and taken into consideration when they were making decisions.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's one of the main problems in Oakland. It's always on some hardly stable precipice of coherency. A little weakness shown, a small amount of chaos; and the whole thing is likely to explode. This should have been well known to those in charge and taken into consideration when they were making decisions.
    She wants to be viewed as "hip".

    She is a horrible Mayor who already had one police chief quit on her due to being incapable of helping the department out and keeping it well understaffed.

    Oakland would be the perfect place for the Black Bloc style anarchists to do whatever they want.... considering how understaffed the police department is and how tight the department has their hands tied by their ****ty weak mayor.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    She wants to be viewed as "hip".

    She is a horrible Mayor who already had one police chief quit on her due to being incapable of helping the department out and keeping it well understaffed.

    Oakland would be the perfect place for the Black Bloc style anarchists to do whatever they want.... considering how understaffed the police department is and how tight the department has their hands tied by their ****ty weak mayor.
    She needs to do her job. This is one reason I think they should have been allowed to stay on the public land despite the camping laws. One, they are assembling and protesting and I would think those outweigh camping laws. Two, you keep them confined to an area and give them no excuse to riot.

    Oakland's looking for an excuse, give it to them and they'll take it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    She needs to do her job. This is one reason I think they should have been allowed to stay on the public land despite the camping laws. One, they are assembling and protesting and I would think those outweigh camping laws. Two, you keep them confined to an area and give them no excuse to riot.

    Oakland's looking for an excuse, give it to them and they'll take it.
    Great! So we should always capitulate to mob rule, and suspend laws so that we don't piss off the mob.....Sounds like who ever can whip up enough fear wins....Good plan.


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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Great! So we should always capitulate to mob rule, and suspend laws so that we don't piss off the mob.....Sounds like who ever can whip up enough fear wins....Good plan.


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    It's the conservatives plan. TERRORISTS!!!!!!

    Hahah, fear mongering isn't isolated to just one side, in fact your side is the best at using it. Still there are realities to look at and when you take action, you will have consequence. Thus any RATIONAL individual who sits down to make a decision will consider action and reaction in the process. It's natural for any intelligent being. As such, the reaction of Oakland should most certainly have been contemplated.

    But I mean I guess you're ok in starting a huge riot in a city to enforce a camping law.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think "ordinary citizens" would avoid blockading the work route of truckers and dock workers trying to earn their livings, isntead of lousing around and destroying public property in "peaceful protest" against things completely unrelated to the "middle class" workers they're targeting.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's the conservatives plan. TERRORISTS!!!!!!

    Hahah, fear mongering isn't isolated to just one side, in fact your side is the best at using it. Still there are realities to look at and when you take action, you will have consequence. Thus any RATIONAL individual who sits down to make a decision will consider action and reaction in the process. It's natural for any intelligent being. As such, the reaction of Oakland should most certainly have been contemplated.

    But I mean I guess you're ok in starting a huge riot in a city to enforce a camping law.
    And I guess you are ok with mobs taking over and attacking police, and destroying commerce. Is that a Libertarian platform?

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No true Scotsman would ever wear Irish green.
    Probably but they probably would consider wearing Polish Orange.


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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And I guess you are ok with mobs taking over and attacking police, and destroying commerce. Is that a Libertarian platform?

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    No, but if you could let them stay on the land, keep them contained, and because you're not using police force to move them out, they then have no reason TO riot. If you stop them from rioting, you're likely better off.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy Oakland protesters remove barricade at port entrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, but if you could let them stay on the land, keep them contained, and because you're not using police force to move them out, they then have no reason TO riot. If you stop them from rioting, you're likely better off.
    Why should they get to do it, when I have to obtain a permit and jump through hoops?


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