Thread: House subpoenas White House for Solyndra documents

A non-issue by the Republicans to distract everyone from the fact they've done absolutely nothing to help the unemployment crisis. In fact, they want unemployment to increase as they continue to seek to elimination of government jobs.

Originally Posted by Tettsuo

A non-issue by the Republicans to distract everyone from the fact they've done absolutely nothing to help the unemployment crisis. In fact, they want unemployment to increase as they continue to seek to elimination of government jobs.

Eliminating government jobs is a long term net gain, assuming spending decreases in line with the decrease in salary obligations. It decrease our national borrowing needs and therefore our debt accrual. It makes our dollar more stable and would slow inflation related increases. But yeah, temporarily it would sting like a sumbitch. So does pouring alcohol on a cut, but it's damn sure worth it to avoid the ick, isn't it?

Can't ask the monarchy, oops I mean the White House, to reveal anything anymore. They do what they want.

Originally Posted by roughdraft274

Ok, I hope the white house turns over the documents. Not really sure what they're searching for though. This seems to be the biggest non-scandal scandal that I can think of. Hell the process of giving these loans to solyndra started on the Bush administration through a loan guarantee program created in 2005 under a republican congress and a republican president. As of yet I haven't seen any evidence that Obama or his administration benefited in any way from this mess. Seems more like Republicans in the house just would be very happy to waste time on a non-issue rather than actually work towards anything productive.

To say that the process was started under Bush is like saying Watergate was started by the processes of the founding fathers.

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Originally Posted by MaggieD

And was the other bankrupt company just a screw-up as well?

Two parts to my answer. One is that this subject is Solyndra (while that may indirectly include the other one, my comment was based on the OP). Secondly, I do think that was a screw up too. I'm always willing to be proven wrong, but I think these choices came from ignorance, not malice. And I'm still not convinced that the President's team really broke the law. I guess that's why there's hearings. I just feel like the timing is bad and it might backfire on the republicans.

Solyndra is not in a vacuum. The other company plays a part as well. Patterns are hard to miss. I don't know if they broke the law. Wasn't commenting on that. But we sure need an investigation to figure it out. Backfire on the Repub's? They're going to lose the presidency in 2012; that's a given. But just maybe they'll take more seats on Congress. Best they can hope for, imo.

Originally Posted by Tettsuo

A non-issue by the Republicans to distract everyone from the fact they've done absolutely nothing to help the unemployment crisis. In fact, they want unemployment to increase as they continue to seek to elimination of government jobs.

And just what has Obama done to help the unemployment crisis? Huh-huh-huh?? Links.

7.8 2009
9.1 September 2011

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

I'm thrilled. So are the unemployed.

Originally Posted by Keridan

I am by no stretch of the imagination a fan of President Obama, but this one strikes as a poor move to me. I think this one was really just an honest screw up. Further, I don't think it's an unusually bad one. He was campaigning on companies like this and chose a bad one to put in the forefront. It's likely that nothing new will be discovered and it will be dubbed a witch hunt. The administration is ready for this move.

I agree that this may have been an honest screw-up...but I also allow for the possibility that this was the result of a callous disregard for the weak position of the company in the interest of promoting Obama's desire to influence his base...that is, to show that he really cares about alternative energy.

In any event, do you think that putting the taxpayer in hock for half a billion dollars because of a screw-up is not "unusually bad"?

Originally Posted by Mycroft

I agree that this may have been an honest screw-up...but I also allow for the possibility that this was the result of a callous disregard for the weak position of the company in the interest of promoting Obama's desire to influence his base...that is, to show that he really cares about alternative energy.

In any event, do you think that putting the taxpayer in hock for half a billion dollars because of a screw-up is not "unusually bad"?

I think it's absolutely horrible, but I was making a comparison statement. Unfortunately, it's almost par for the course.

As i say, I'm no fan of the President's. I won't argue that Solyndra was okay. Bear in mind, though, that Obama's only real skill is campaigning. He's gearing up for the next election by setting the republicans up as obstructionist, battle-happy demons. I have concerns about how this will play out. The right has been handing him favors all over in their handling of his recent movements.

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Originally Posted by 1Perry

To say that the process was started under Bush is like saying Watergate was started by the processes of the founding fathers.

It's nothing like that at all. Bush made a specific change to the loan program that benefitted only one company. Can you guess what the one company was that qualified because of that specific exception? If you guessed Solydra you get a gold star.

Originally Posted by AdamT

It's nothing like that at all. Bush made a specific change to the loan program that benefitted only one company. Can you guess what the one company was that qualified because of that specific exception? If you guessed Solydra you get a gold star.

Emails uncovered by investigators for the House Energy and Commerce Committee showed that the Obama White House closely monitored the Energy Department's deliberations over the $535 million government loan, which was backed by an Obama fundraiser. The internal emails uncovered by investigators showed the administration was keenly monitoring the progress of the loan, even as analysts were voicing serious concerns about the risk involved. "This deal is NOT ready for prime time," one White House budget analyst wrote in a March 10, 2009 email, nine days before the administration formally announced the loan.

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Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris

I bet the house's aproval ratings go up, up, up.

There's not really another direction for them to go at this point.