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    The thing is. Iran probably realy is a threat to the human race. When we knock them back to the stone age, confiscate their wealth and use that to rebuild instead of our tax money.

    I mean this is more when than if. Iran keeps smacking the dog on the nose, no one should be surprised when it bites.


    That being said. I oppose the wars we are still in unnecessarily.
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    Re: UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I'm keeping up just fine, but you seem to be a bit befuddled. Please note the bolded part of your post below, which I originally quoted, where you refer to the OP and the OP's sources. My rebuttal was directed at that part of your post. Ergo, my rebuttal was directed at the OP and your defense of him. Have a nice evening.
    A reference to the OP or the OP's sources means nothing without considering what the conversation is about...unless you enjoy going off-topic.

    My whole line with samsmart was about his contention of partisanship involving Republicans and Democrats. Your remarks about Obama had nothing to do with that conversational thread.

    Perhaps you would have been better served if you had responded to the OP or to my agreement with him.
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    Re: UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogger807 View Post
    The thing is. Iran probably realy is a threat to the human race. When we knock them back to the stone age, confiscate their wealth and use that to rebuild instead of our tax money.

    I mean this is more when than if. Iran keeps smacking the dog on the nose, no one should be surprised when it bites.


    That being said. I oppose the wars we are still in unnecessarily.
    That's just silly. If Obama conquered Iran, he would punish them by insisting they give up oil in favor of solar and wind power and only drive electric cars.

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    Re: UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Where would the world be without Americans and our superiority complex? I mean - really!
    The world would be a much sadder place. Can you imagine the shape we would be in if the Soviets and/or China would have emerged the world's only super power(s)? If Hitler had defeated England and The Soviet Union? The Japanese still controlled most of Asia?
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    Re: UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Right.

    If a Democrat does something, it's always for political glory.

    If a Republican does the same thing, it's always for the greater good of our nation.

    Please be more partisan. I would like to see if it's possible.
    It's purdy safe to say that Obama is out for Obama and screw everyone else.
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    Re: UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Iran is the only missing link at this point in the construction of the middle eastern oil pipeline, courtesy of NATO (but mainly the U.S.)

    It will be attacked soon but likely at grave cost.
    That's doubtful. The Iranians couldn't even defeat the Iraqi army.
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    Re: UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Hmmmm.....how the hell did that happen....oh wait.
    Ever look at a map of the ME?
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    Re: UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogger807 View Post
    The thing is. Iran probably realy is a threat to the human race. When we knock them back to the stone age, confiscate their wealth and use that to rebuild instead of our tax money.

    I mean this is more when than if. Iran keeps smacking the dog on the nose, no one should be surprised when it bites.


    That being said. I oppose the wars we are still in unnecessarily.
    You've never looked at a map of the ME, either. Have you?
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    Re: UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Can Iran hit the US with it's "nukes" (50 States proper)?
    The answer is "no", Iran can't hit all 50 states, but it could easily devastate the mainland. It is an established fact that Iran has contemplated an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) attack on the U.S. and have practiced launching missiles from ships. All they would have to do is place a medium, or even a short range missile on a freighter and launch a missile to a height of around 125 miles over the center of the U.S. Everything that uses electricity, which is everything we use, would be useless. No electricity for lights or heat. Cars and trucks that weren't sheltered wouldn't work. No food would get delivered. No gas would get delivered for any vehicles that managed to survive the attack. And of course no computers, gps, or other electronic items would work any more. An EMP attack is the biggest threat to the U.S.

    Let us say the freighter ship launches a nuclear-armed Shahab-3 missile off the coast of the U.S. and the missile explodes 300 miles over Chicago. The nuclear detonation in space creates an electromagnetic pulse (EMP).

    Gamma rays from the explosion, through the Compton Effect, generate three classes of disruptive electromagnetic pulses, which permanently destroy consumer electronics, the electronics in some automobiles and, most importantly, the hundreds of large transformers that distribute power throughout the U.S. All of our lights, refrigerators, water-pumping stations, TVs and radios stop running. We have no communication and no ability to provide food and water to 300 million Americans.

    This is what is referred to as an EMP attack, and such an attack would effectively throw America back technologically into the early 19th century. It would require the Iranians to be able to produce a warhead as sophisticated as we expect the Russians or the Chinese to possess. But that is certainly attainable. Common sense would suggest that, absent food and water, the number of people who could die of deprivation and as a result of social breakdown might run well into the millions.

    Let us be clear. A successful EMP attack on the U.S. would have a dramatic effect on the country, to say the least. Even one that only affected part of the country would cripple the economy for years. Dropping nuclear weapons on or retaliating against whoever caused the attack would not help. And an EMP attack is not far-fetched.

    Twice in the last eight years, in the Caspian Sea, the Iranians have tested their ability to launch ballistic missiles in a way to set off an EMP. The congressionally mandated EMP Commission, with some of America's finest scientists, has released its findings and issued two separate reports, the most recent in April, describing the devastating effects of such an attack on the U.S.
    MissileThreat :: Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Weapons


    Iran could cripple the U.S. if they obtain a nuclear weapon.
    Last edited by Gill; 11-03-11 at 09:44 AM.

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    Re: UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears

    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchtime_ View Post
    [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/02/uk-military-iran-attack-nuclear]..... He will, of course, choose what is best for Obama, not what is best for America.
    How many times to I have to say this? Though Obama may act like a Republican, he is not actually a Republican, so he would still chose country ahead of self.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 11-03-11 at 10:06 AM.

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