Thread: Former Marine's injury spurs vets to join Occupy movement

Theres a bond between combat veterans that cannot be broken...

My heart is torn in two directions...as a cop and as a veteran...I have remained silent because I just dont know all the facts...but If I knew them..I would certainly take the side of who I thought was right....I just dont know at this point.

Former Marine's injury spurs vets to join Occupy movement

One last thought to USATODAY...there is no such thing as a "FORMER" marine.

I have tremendous respect for US Marines, believe me I do.

But this is a dumb reason to join a particular movement. You join OWS perhaps because you agree with the message or sympathize with their cause, not because your friend/fellow Marine got hurt and you're mad at the cops who may or may not have overreacted.

The OWS marches are...by their nature...volatile situations. They are mob actions. I'm surprised any Vet would be stupid enough to become part of the mob...given their experience with order and control in chaotic situations. But, hey...Vets can be stupid just like any other people, I guess.

As a Vet, I certainly won't place myself in a stupid, dangerous situation just because some other idiot Vet did the same. Perhaps those "Veterans of the 99%" would be better served marching to the hospital and telling Olsen what a dumbass he is.

Originally Posted by Mycroft

The OWS marches are...by their nature...volatile situations. They are mob actions. I'm surprised any Vet would be stupid enough to become part of the mob...given their experience with order and control in chaotic situations. But, hey...Vets can be stupid just like any other people, I guess.

As a Vet, I certainly won't place myself in a stupid, dangerous situation just because some other idiot Vet did the same. Perhaps those "Veterans of the 99%" would be better served marching to the hospital and telling Olsen what a dumbass he is.

I think you're generalizing based on the events that have garnered media coverage. Certainly many of them are, but I wouldn't conclude that it is characteristic of the movement as a whole.

Originally Posted by StillBallin75

I think you're generalizing based on the events that have garnered media coverage. Certainly many of them are, but I wouldn't conclude that it is characteristic of the movement as a whole.

Nope...not generalizing.

If I were inclined to be a part of a protest, as soon as the idiots around me started acting foolish, I'd get myself out of there. There's no reason to be a part of a conflict with the police when they have the guns and gas.

Now, I have nothing against "Veterans of the 99%" marching if they believe whatever they are marching for...but marching for a dumbass Vet is a dumbass idea.

Originally Posted by lpast

Theres a bond between combat veterans that cannot be broken...

My heart is torn in two directions...as a cop and as a veteran...I have remained silent because I just dont know all the facts...but If I knew them..I would certainly take the side of who I thought was right....I just dont know at this point.

Former Marine's injury spurs vets to join Occupy movement

One last thought to USATODAY...there is no such thing as a "FORMER" marine.

not even one that was administratively discharged other than honorably for Cocaine use, who held the Marines in high contempt up until his injury? Really?



furthermore IVAW is no news story, it's sort of misleading, the title, and the article here. not to say Veterans are not involved, But I don't see the VFW or the Legion lending thier support. I think the article is not fully honest.

Wow IVAW and a couple vietnam vets joined #ows..... This is not news and nothing like the thread title is implying. It's a propaganda piece.

There are no former Marines.

Originally Posted by lpast

Theres a bond between combat veterans that cannot be broken...

My heart is torn in two directions...as a cop and as a veteran...I have remained silent because I just dont know all the facts...but If I knew them..I would certainly take the side of who I thought was right....I just dont know at this point.

Former Marine's injury spurs vets to join Occupy movement

One last thought to USATODAY...there is no such thing as a "FORMER" marine.

Take the side of the peaceful protesters. That's the side to take. Protesting is all we've got left. Though they're a rag-tag bunch with many different agendas...even though some small groups of them choose to break the law...even though they're a pain in the neck to the city of NY and the other cities that have have joined them...it's a sacred right. They are to be applauded for what they're doing. They're freezing their butts off, they've given up creature comforts -- to make a statement. And however misguided some of us believe they are, they're practicing democracy at its finest. For the most part, we should be proud of them.

Originally Posted by Deuce

There are no former Marines.

I thinks he might have some issues trying to join the legion or the VFW, lol.


And most of these Marines disagree with you:

Former Marine vs. Ex-Marine - US Marine Corps - tribe.net

Originally Posted by MaggieD

Take the side of the peaceful protesters. That's the side to take. Protesting is all we've got left. Though they're a rag-tag bunch with many different agendas...even though some small groups of them choose to break the law...even though they're a pain in the neck to the city of NY and the other cities that have have joined them...it's a sacred right. They are to be applauded for what they're doing. They're freezing their butts off, they've given up creature comforts -- to make a statement. And however misguided some of us believe they are, they're practicing democracy at its finest. For the most part, we should be proud of them.

Sorry, dude...but I'm not proud of useful idiots.