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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    She hasn't been "dragged into the public eye." No one even knows who she is!
    Its true we dont know her name and I mentioned that in another thread. We dont know her name...yet. I just really believe that the cat is out of the proverbial bag for whatever reason. Cain didnt bring it out but since it was out he HAD to respond. the question now is what was his response? If he is being honest...that whatever she claimed was harassment was simply an innocent gesture taken the wrong way...fine. Hell...Im sure we all (men and women) have done something or said something that could be misinterpreted). But if there were legit charges, his statement "I have NEVER sexually harassed anyone" now comes into play.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    She could be to Hermann Cain what Paula Jones was to Bill Clinton, but here is what I would really like to find out:

    1) Those who attacked Clinton over Paula Jones, before Monica Lewinsky broke - Are you going to attack Hermann Cain the same way, or is the fact that he is a Republican more important?

    2) Those who defended Clinton over Paula Jones, and claimed that Republicans were attacking his character - Are you going to defend Hermann Cain with the same vigor you defended Clinton, or does the fact that Cain is a Republican take precedence in your decision?

    Here's the deal - Either Cain committed sexual harassment or he didn't. Whether he did or not will be determined by the facts. Until then, I am really interested in seeing how many hypocrites, both Democratic and Republican, are members of Debate Politics.

    Watching the responses from some of our hyperpartisans on both sides is going to be very interesting.

    After originally defending Cain, I am now on the fence, and will wait for more information to come in before deciding whether to further defend him, or to jump on him and demand that he withdraw his nomination for President.... And yes, for the record, I was one of the very first to jump on Clinton, and demand his impeachment, once the facts in the Paula Jones case became clear to me, and I could no longer give him the benefit of the doubt, which is what I am giving Cain, at this time.

    Finally, I would advise the National Restaurant Association to lift the nondisclosure agreement, and allow the woman to talk. The alternative will be to make Cain look guilty of harassment, and the association guilty of a cover up, in the eyes of many, whether warranted or not.

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    allow me to answer your "hypothetical" with a reality check.. regardless of your political affiliation, I would hope that due to the fact that this was A. 20 years ago, and B.take into account the timing, and C. and most importantly the fact that there was a nondisclosure agreed to 20 years ago.
    which means the seriousness of the charge was sold for a monetary fee. which would lead me to believe that this stunt may have a monetary motive. basically if he didnt rape someone, and its all based on an inuendo or gesture of some sort...dont we feel at least a little silly for entertaining ourselves with it.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry, but the alleging party gave up her right to express her version when she cashed the check. If she wants to change her mind and talk now...give the money back.
    Why does she give up more than he gave up? Someone did pay her, right? For what? Look, you can draw no conclusions from what we know. it says nothing one way or the other to his guilt. If he wanted accquital, it can be argued, he should have made it go to court.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    shes a gold digger and to that we can rest assure
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    shes a gold digger and to that we can rest assure
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    facepalm2.jpg

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    and something about your picture tells me you know a lot about palming...

    but on topic, and to defend what I said, why dont you tell me what you think her motive to come out now is, if not money...
    Cain didnt mention her by name, and it has been 20 years,

    just something she could no longer hold in, shes been to therapy and taken pills, and just cant shake it?
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    allow me to answer your "hypothetical" with a reality check.. regardless of your political affiliation, I would hope that due to the fact that this was A. 20 years ago,
    the press says it was 12 years ago. this is a character issue. if it is found that ole raisin misused his influence a dozen years ago to sexually intimidate a subordinate employee, does that character flaw dissolve over 12 years

    and B.take into account the timing,
    ok. what about the timing


    and C. and most importantly the fact that there was a nondisclosure agreed to 20 years ago.
    your item 'a' and item 'c' appear very much alike; again, the press is indicating that it was 12 years ago

    which means the seriousness of the charge was sold for a monetary fee. which would lead me to believe that this stunt may have a monetary motive. basically if he didnt rape someone, and its all based on an inuendo or gesture of some sort
    we can speculate that money was exchanged. from raisin's employer to the purported victim of his sexual harassment. raisin himself indicates that there was a sum tendered to the woman ... after he initially questioned whether she received any monetary payment

    you appear willing to ignore someone in a position of authority abusing their authority to sexually harass an underling, provided that abuse of authority does not "rise" to the level of rape. you appear unwilling to recognize that this woman's career was adversely impacted by the supervisor's inappropriate behavior. the possibility exists that the employer lost a very capable employee - besides the expense of settlement - only because ole raisin could not control his sexual innuendo. you spoke of the 'timing' issue above. could it be that ole raisin's departure from the restaurant association so soon after this incident was precipitated by his proclivity to mistreat his subordinate staff

    ...dont we feel at least a little silly for entertaining ourselves with it.
    i can certainly understand why you would feel that way
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Why does she give up more than he gave up? Someone did pay her, right? For what? Look, you can draw no conclusions from what we know. it says nothing one way or the other to his guilt.
    she was paid for her silence....he wasn't

    If he wanted accquital, it can be argued, he should have made it go to court.
    just as it can be argued that if she had wanted her version to be made public, she should have refused the payoff.

    funny how these kinds of people always seem to have a change of heart and feel the need for the truth to be told.....after the payoff money runs out.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    and something about your picture tells me you know a lot about palming...

    but on topic, and to defend what I said, why dont you tell me what you think her motive to come out now is, if not money...
    Cain didnt mention her by name, and it has been 20 years,

    just something she could no longer hold in, shes been to therapy and taken pills, and just cant shake it?
    Palming? I don't know what that means, though I imagine it's a slam. I sense it makes more sense to say it to you than to Abby.

    When she "comes out," I'll let you know. She hasn't. Actually, though, I interpretted your post to mean that initially her motive for reporting years ago was because she was a gold digger. Perhaps you need to be clearer in your posts.
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