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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Another example of Cain being deceptive. The women settled with the Restaurant Association, not Cain, so the Restaurant Association is the party that has rights under the confidentiality agreement. I'm sure they would waive it if Cain asked them to. Did Cain say that he asked them to waive confidentiality? No.
    Why would they ever waive confidentiality? That's not in their best interests. She got a year's salary, as I understand it. Quid Quo Pro. Unless it's that important to her that she wants to give the money back....

    Look, if this hadn't happened you wouldn't like Cain. You are no one who matters in this dogfight. The people who do are those who would have possibly voted for him. You oughta' quit throwing stones. You'll break your windows.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why would they ever waive confidentiality? That's not in their best interests. She got a year's salary, as I understand it. Quid Quo Pro. Unless it's that important to her that she wants to give the money back....

    Look, if this hadn't happened you wouldn't like Cain. You are no one who matters in this dogfight. The people who do are those who would have possibly voted for him. You oughta' quit throwing stones. You'll break your windows.
    Sorry Maggie, you are one poster I most always agree with...seems we think very similar on alot of issues...not all of course
    Herman Cain is running for President of the USA no one knows anything about him except he was CEO of a small corporation.
    EVERYONE republicans or democrats or independents deserve to know what his past was...his entire LIFE became public knowledge when he decided he wanted to run for prez.

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    Re: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you ok with Libbos saying that Herman Cain, "will sit at the back of the bus", and, "is a black man that knows his place"?
    No more than I am OK with Hermann Cain telling women that they have to sit at the back of the bus after he harassed them, if that is what happened.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    She could be to Hermann Cain what Paula Jones was to Bill Clinton, but here is what I would really like to find out:

    1) Those who attacked Clinton over Paula Jones, before Monica Lewinsky broke - Are you going to attack Hermann Cain the same way, or is the fact that he is a Republican more important?

    2) Those who defended Clinton over Paula Jones, and claimed that Republicans were attacking his character - Are you going to defend Hermann Cain with the same vigor you defended Clinton, or does the fact that Cain is a Republican take precedence in your decision?

    Here's the deal - Either Cain committed sexual harassment or he didn't. Whether he did or not will be determined by the facts. Until then, I am really interested in seeing how many hypocrites, both Democratic and Republican, are members of Debate Politics.

    Watching the responses from some of our hyperpartisans on both sides is going to be very interesting.

    After originally defending Cain, I am now on the fence, and will wait for more information to come in before deciding whether to further defend him, or to jump on him and demand that he withdraw his nomination for President.... And yes, for the record, I was one of the very first to jump on Clinton, and demand his impeachment, once the facts in the Paula Jones case became clear to me, and I could no longer give him the benefit of the doubt, which is what I am giving Cain, at this time.

    Finally, I would advise the National Restaurant Association to lift the nondisclosure agreement, and allow the woman to talk. The alternative will be to make Cain look guilty of harassment, and the association guilty of a cover up, in the eyes of many, whether warranted or not.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Is this what you said about Rev. Wright? Who cares about his past?

    Just proves what I already said, if you've already decided to vote for him, nothing will change your mind. If you're looking for the best person for the job, you might want to look past Cain. I don't think he's it. Regardless of this charge and its veracity.
    The rev Wright argument doesnt apply...The Cain situation...whatever allegedly occurred... occurred 15 years ago. The Obama/Wright connection was current and modern day. Apparently though, Obama wasnt really committed to going to church for anything other than appearance purposes and slept through 20 years of race baiting sermons. But see...night and day difference.

    If Gov Perry were found to be hanging out weekly by choice with a group of racists, you wouldnt think that was something to be concerned about? If that were the case, then your argument would be relevant.

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    Re: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No more than I am OK with Hermann Cain telling women that they have to sit at the back of the bus after he harassed them, if that is what happened.
    Yeah..."if"
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I believe the point is, a presidential nominee can actually rape someone and still get elected.

    All Herman Cain did was say, "You're the same height as my wife".
    Accusations were made against both Clinton and Cain. Both cases settled out of court, so we don't really know what happened in either case. You keep suggesting you know what happened in the Cain case(s), but you don't. We've only heard one side of the story, and precious little of that.

    But we do know that Cain's accusers came forth right away, while Paula Jones didn't do anything for three years after the alleged rape -- until Clinton was in the WH and Jones teamed up with conservative activists....
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    Re: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I believe the point is, a presidential nominee can actually rape someone and still get elected.

    All Herman Cain did was say, "You're the same height as my wife".
    let's have ole raisin encourage the women to come forward and speak freely
    then we will see if he had his hands horizontally separated about 10 inches apart as he was speaking to the female subordinate while at the hotel
    all we have now is one side of the story ... raisin's
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why would they ever waive confidentiality? That's not in their best interests. She got a year's salary, as I understand it. Quid Quo Pro. Unless it's that important to her that she wants to give the money back....

    Look, if this hadn't happened you wouldn't like Cain. You are no one who matters in this dogfight. The people who do are those who would have possibly voted for him. You oughta' quit throwing stones. You'll break your windows.
    Why would they waive confidentiality? They would do so if they wanted there to be a full airing of the alleged incidents. It would have no impact on the Restaurant Association. But I think it would be a bad move for Cain to request it. He just wants this to blow over as quickly as possible, and I'm sure it will.

    Again, as is so often the case, the point isn't the scandal, but the cover up -- or in this case, Cain's handling of the story. He tried to make it go away by pretending it never happened instead of dealing with it head on. He should have said he didn't do anything wrong, he wasn't sued -- the Association was -- and the Association made a business decision that it would be cheaper to settle than to litigate, notwithstanding the fact that the charges were without merit. He should have also said that he strongly condemns sexual harrassment in the workplace.

    A candidate's ability to handle this kind of adversity says something about how they will perform under pressure once in office. On this occasion I would give Cain a C-/D+.

    No, I'm not going to vote for Cain, and you're not going to vote for Obama. I'll stop commenting on Republican candidates if you stop commenting about Obama. Deal?
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Why would they waive confidentiality? They would do so if they wanted there to be a full airing of the alleged incidents.
    Had they wanted a "full airing," they never would have insisted on confidentiality.

    Again, as is so often the case, the point isn't the scandal, but the cover up -- or in this case, Cain's handling of the story. He tried to make it go away by pretending it never happened instead of dealing with it head on. He should have said he didn't do anything wrong, he wasn't sued -- the Association was -- and the Association made a business decision that it would be cheaper to settle than to litigate, notwithstanding the fact that the charges were without merit. He should have also said that he strongly condemns sexual harrassment in the workplace.
    I completely agree.

    I'll stop commenting on Republican candidates if you stop commenting about Obama. Deal?
    No way!!! I'd miss out on too much fun!!!
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