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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

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    So shoving a woman's face in your crotch & putting your hand up her skirt = simple teasing???

    You live in an interesting version of reality.


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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

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    Exactly what part of "or severe" don't you understand?

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

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    So shoving a woman's face in your crotch & putting your hand up her skirt = simple teasing???

    You live in an interesting version of reality.
    as I said, this is not harassment. shoving a woman's face in your crotch and putting your hand up her skirt is assault. do try to keep up and thanks for playing
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Exactly what part of "or severe" don't you understand?
    what part of any offense that is "severe" is going to be prosecuted as assault, not harassment don't you understand? thanks for playing
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm, the information came from the same guy.

    The article I cut & pasted from was quoting Joel Bennett, the plaintiff's attorney. In that article, he incorrectly stated that Cain was still the president of the NRA at the time of the settlement.

    The article you cut & pasted from was was also quoting Joel Bennett, the plaintiff's attorney. In that article, he stated the settlement was signed in September, 1999.

    But the source from both our articles was the same guy, Joel Bennett, the plaintiff's attorney. I relied on what he said in the article I posted from, so I was wrong.

    But it was rather amusing watching you criticize me for relying on statements from the the plaintiff's attorney even as you were relying on statements from the plaintiff's attorney.

    I relied upon the article. They didn't quote this Bennett fellow when they wrote this ....

    Cain had already left the organization by then, before his three-year term was up, as my colleagues reported last night.

    Look, at the end of the day Cain didn't sign any agreements. We both agree on this so let's move on.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    what part of any offense that is "severe" is going to be prosecuted as assault, not harassment don't you understand? thanks for playing
    the part where you exclude sexual harassment charges as though the two charges, "sexual harassment" and "sexual assault" are mutually exclusive.

    They're not and the definition I gave you said as much.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

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    the part where you exclude sexual harassment charges as though the two charges, "sexual harassment" and "sexual assault" are mutually exclusive.

    They're not and the definition I gave you said as much.
    sorry that you just can't understand there is the "book definition" and then there is the "as applied definition". but....thanks for playing
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    Re: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    From equalrights.org -- ERA: Sexual Harassment at Work -- Sexual Harassment in the Workplace:

    What is sexual harassment?
    Sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination.The legal definition of sexual harassment is “unwelcome verbal, visual, or physical conduct of a sexual nature that is severe or pervasive and affects working conditions or creates a hostile work environment.”
    Unwelcome

    Conduct is not sexual harassment if it is welcome.For this reason, it is important to communicate (either verbally, in writing, or by your own actions) to the harasser that the conduct makes you uncomfortable and that you want it to stop.

    Conduct Of A Sexual Nature
    Many different kinds of conduct—verbal, visual or physical—that is of a sexual nature may be sexual harassment, if the behavior is unwelcome and if it is severe or pervasive. Here are some more examples:
    Verbal or written: Comments about clothing, personal behavior, or a person’s body; sexual or sex-based jokes; requesting sexual favors or repeatedly asking a person out; sexual innuendoes; telling rumors about a person’s personal or sexual life; threatening a person
    There's plenty more examples at the link.

    If Cain did what this lady says he did, he was guilty of sexual assault. Maybe. Big maybe.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    as I said, this is not harassment. shoving a woman's face in your crotch and putting your hand up her skirt is assault. do try to keep up and thanks for playing
    Oh, it's "assault." Well then it's okay, isn't it?

    I guess it depends on what your definition of "is" is.


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