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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    exactly: one instance of making a comment is not harassment. one instance of groping, etc is assault. some people refuse to see there is a difference
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    it is true, not my fault if a few liberals on this forum don't like it. I'd love to see you try to sue a guy for harassment after he made one comment to you.

    the only way a single comment could ever be considered harassment would be if it was so severe and so egregious that it could be considered a threat. and even then it wouldn't be harassment, it would be assault
    Here, read it again, this time for clarity ...


    What is sexual harassment?


    Sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination. The legal definition of sexual harassment is unwelcome verbal, visual, or physical conduct of a sexual nature that is severe or pervasive and affects working conditions or creates a hostile work environment.


    Severe or Pervasive

    The conduct of the harasser must either be severe or it must be pervasive to be sexual harassment. A single incident is probably not sexual harassment unless it is severe. For example, a single incident of rape or attempted rape would probably be sexual harassment (it would also violate criminal laws).


    ERA: Sexual Harassment at Work

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Here, read it again, this time for clarity ...

    What is sexual harassment?

    Sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination. The legal definition of sexual harassment is “unwelcome verbal, visual, or physical conduct of a sexual nature that is severe or pervasive and affects working conditions or creates a hostile work environment.”


    Severe or Pervasive

    The conduct of the harasser must either be severe or it must be pervasive to be sexual harassment. A single incident is probably not sexual harassment unless it is severe. For example, a single incident of rape or attempted rape would probably be sexual harassment (it would also violate criminal laws).


    ERA: Sexual Harassment at Work
    as I have repeatedly said, unless the event qualifies as assault (or as you are so fixated upon the subject: rape) a single incident is not harassment. thanks for playing
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    assault itself is merely threatening harm on someone - if it's enacted on it becomes battery.

    sexual assault is the harmful conduct of any sexually-related acts against someone. . .the same word but it's given two different definitions (legally)
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    assault itself is merely threatening harm on someone - if it's enacted on it becomes battery.

    sexual assault is the harmful conduct of any sexually-related acts against someone. . .the same word but it's given two different definitions (legally)
    agreed and a "hey baby, nice rack" is not assault and unless repeated is not harassment
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    as I have repeatedly said, unless the event qualifies as assault (or as you are so fixated upon the subject: rape) a single incident is not harassment. thanks for playing
    Actually, what you said was, "the only way a single comment could ever be considered harassment would be if it was so severe and so egregious that it could be considered a threat. and even then it wouldn't be harassment, it would be assault"

    That is simply not true, yes it can be sexual harassment. I don't understand why you can't understand that as it's rather plain English. As the equalrights.org website states, a single severe incident can be sexual harassment as well as violating criminal laws (such as assault).

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    agreed and a "hey baby, nice rack" is not assault and unless repeated is not harassment
    That's probably correct. OTOH, if it was accompanied by a double handful of titty, it might qualify. Or if it was typical of the type of comments made over a period of time, it would qualify.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's probably correct. OTOH, if it was accompanied by a double handful of titty, it might qualify. Or if it was typical of the type of comments made over a period of time, it would qualify.
    which is my point. but shiek wants to keep crying "rape" for some reason

    a single, non-threatening, comment made without any physical contact is not going to be considered harassment by 99.99% of the courts anywhere in this country.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    True, I relied on Herman Cain accuser attorney, Joel Bennett ... and you relied on .... Herman Cain accuser attorney, Joel Bennett
    . Nope, I relied on the news article that clearly stated your source, the plaintiffs attorney, was wrong.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    which is my point. but shiek wants to keep crying "rape" for some reason
    The reason being -- that I'm cutting & pasting the definition of sexual harassment from equalrights.org. I can't decide which is worse for you, that you can't understand their definition or that you can't understand why the word "rape" appears in my posts?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    a single, non-threatening, comment made without any physical contact is not going to be considered harassment by 99.99% of the courts anywhere in this country.
    And of course, a single non-threatening comment doesn't qualify as "severe." As equalrights.org defines sexual harassment, a single severe incident can be sexual harassment.

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