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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    see the post above yours. even the lawyer who disagrees with me on everything thinks you are wrong
    So? I posted the link to you which stated the case was dropped due to lack of merit.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

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    So? I posted the link to you which stated the case was dropped due to lack of merit.
    and I could post a link that says the moon is made of green cheese. what's your point?
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    please look up the definition of "harassment". his alleged actions might be considered "assault" but it is NOT harassment. harassment requires a pattern of behavior, not a one time event.
    Any behavior that makes someone else feel bad is harrassment. Of course, in a free society, the sticks and stones principle applies, i. e. depending on the relationship of the harrasser to the victim, unless it involves physical harm or a threat of harm, punishing the harrasser is not always necessary. If a man, say, just made lewd remarks to a pretty woman walking in a park, but that would not require punishment.

    But even though specific kinds of harrassing behavior (i. e. lewd remarks) may not merit jail time, a formal complaint, lawsuit, or even a monetary settlement, that does not mean that punishment won't take place. If one is running for political office, mere evidence of any harrassing behavior, i. e. rude remarks, is sufficient to destroy that candidate's chances. That's just the way politics works.

    If cain admits to anything at all, including of just remarks that could be seen as rude, he will do more time in the oven. Case closed.

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    rolleyes Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    For what it's worth, I did notice Cain's eyes definitely moving to the left a lot when he was speaking about the alleged incidents. In body language, that is supposed to mean untruth. I'm just saying..
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Any behavior that makes someone else feel bad is harrassment. Of course, in a free society, the sticks and stones principle applies, i. e. depending on the relationship of the harrasser to the victim, unless it involves physical harm or a threat of harm, punishing the harrasser is not always necessary. If a man, say, just made lewd remarks to a pretty woman walking in a park, but that would not require punishment.

    But even though specific kinds of harrassing behavior (i. e. lewd remarks) may not merit jail time, a formal complaint, lawsuit, or even a monetary settlement, that does not mean that punishment won't take place. If one is running for political office, mere evidence of any harrassing behavior, i. e. rude remarks, is sufficient to destroy that candidate's chances. That's just the way politics works.

    If cain admits to anything at all, including of just remarks that could be seen as rude, he will do more time in the oven. Case closed.
    Harrassment is ongoing unwanted attention. This last lady isn't claiming sexual harrassment. He stopped. She's claiming sexual assault. I wonder if that means if some guy cops a feel he can be indicted.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    The news is reporting otherwise ...


    Bennett said he would not disclose the amount of the monetary settlement his client was awarded by the National Restaurant Association. He also noted that Cain--who was then president of the NRA--did not sign settlement documents. Cain has stated he has no knowledge of a settlement involving this accuser--or with any other women who had lodged sexual harassment allegations against him.

    Herman Cain accuser stands by 1999 harassment claims, won’t reveal details; NRA confirms complaint
    Seriously, you are relying on the plaintiffs attorney to tell the truth.......good grief.

    Herman Cain accuser attorney: Settlement dated 9/99, Kilgore signed - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Seriously, you are relying on the plaintiffs attorney to tell the truth.......good grief.

    Herman Cain accuser attorney: Settlement dated 9/99, Kilgore signed - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Harrassment is ongoing unwanted attention. This last lady isn't claiming sexual harrassment. He stopped. She's claiming sexual assault. I wonder if that means if some guy cops a feel he can be indicted.

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    exactly: one instance of making a comment is not harassment. one instance of groping, etc is assault. some people refuse to see there is a difference
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    exactly: one instance of making a comment is not harassment. one instance of groping, etc is assault. some people refuse to see there is a difference
    not true, oscar, as several people have pointed out.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    not true, oscar, as several people have pointed out.
    it is true, not my fault if a few liberals on this forum don't like it. I'd love to see you try to sue a guy for harassment after he made one comment to you.

    the only way a single comment could ever be considered harassment would be if it was so severe and so egregious that it could be considered a threat. and even then it wouldn't be harassment, it would be assault
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