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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Conservatives' are doing a lot of 'smelling' right now. You do not have to smell anything: Cain is innocent until proven guilty of any new charges, however, any previous suits that he settled in are admissions of guilt.
    You can't even get the facts straight, he never settled anything.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    and how is it any worse that what Clinton did?

    Cain put his hand under a lady's skirt
    Clinton pulled out his willy and waved it in a lady's face
    Can you please stop with the strawmen??

    I never said what Cain has done was worse. First of all, no one knows what Cain did. The first three aren't saying and the most recent two (so far, there will be more) are merely casting baseless accusations. Secondly, we don't know Clinton exposed himself. That too was a baseless claim which fell unproven when Paula Jones' case was dismissed due to lack of merit.

    Overall, I think Clinton was far sleazier than Cain based on what I know so far. At least so far, I have no evidence that Cain cheated on his wife. I can't say the same for Clinton.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    You can't even get the facts straight, he never settled anything.
    Did he not settle two cases out of court? I haven't been following all this that closely, since I do not give a ****, but I believe that is a fact.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    please look up the definition of "harassment". his alleged actions might be considered "assault" but it is NOT harassment. harassment requires a pattern of behavior, not a one time event.
    I think you are correct about that. I withdraw my use of the term harassment. But what he did connecting his ability to feel under her skirt and trying to overcome her objection with a line about her need for employment was simply wrong.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    [COLOR=#0000FF]Can you please stop with the strawmen??

    I never said what Cain has done was worse. First of all, no one knows what Cain did. The first three aren't saying and the most recent two (so far, there will be more) are merely casting baseless accusations.
    then why the hell do you keep arguing about it?


    Secondly, we don't know Clinton exposed himself. That too was a baseless claim which fell unproven when Paula Jones' case was dismissed due to lack of merit.
    please don't lie. Clinton paid her $850K to drop it
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Did he not settle two cases out of court? I haven't been following all this that closely, since I do not give a ****, but I believe that is a fact.
    No, he never settled anything. The NRA settled with the women AFTER Cain left the organization and Cain never signed anything. Everything was done out of court since there was never a case to begin with.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Did he not settle two cases out of court? I haven't been following all this that closely, since I do not give a ****, but I believe that is a fact.
    technicality: "he" did not settle, the employer did
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I think you are correct about that. I withdraw my use of the term harassment. But what he did connecting his ability to feel under her skirt and trying to overcome her objection with a line about her need for employment was simply wrong.
    oh most definitely sleazy skeezy behavior. I just object to the overuse of the term harassment. just like charges of racism: if you call everything racism/harassment it cheapens the use of the terms against actual cases
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    then why the hell do you keep arguing about it?
    I don't even know what you think I'm arguing about. I think you're just invoking knee-jerk responses. I've never said Herman Cain sexually harassed anyone. My only beef with him so far on this matter is the inept manner in how he's handling it. I think the way he's managing this situation, and not the accusations, is going to finish him off.

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    please don't lie. the case was not dismissed. Clinton paid her $850K to drop it
    It's been a while so perhaps you forgot ...

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    In dismissing the civil lawsuit Federal Judge Susan Weber Wright said Paula Jones hadn't met the legal standard for proving sexual harassment, nor the other charges she'd alleged. In a 39-page ruling the judge said, "Although the governor's alleged conduct is true, it may certainly be characterized as boorish and offensive, even a most charitable reading of the record in this case fails to reveal a basis for a claim of criminal sexual assault, as there is no alleged conduct that could be characterized as forcible compulsion." White House Spokesman Mike McCurry, traveling with the president in Senegal was asked how the president received the news.
    After Jones' case was dismissed, Jones filed an appeal at which point Clinton paid her off to go away. But Jones' accusations were found to be "meritless" on the evidence.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    After Jones' case was dismissed, Jones filed an appeal at which point Clinton paid her off to go away. But Jones' accusations were found to be "meritless" on the evidence.
    he paid her to go away because the lawyers were afraid she would win her appeal and the lawsuit would be reinstated. such fears would be unjustified if her accusations were meritless

    The settlement foreclosed the possibility that Clinton's personal life would be reopened for public inspection at a sensational trial had the lawsuit dismissed in April been reinstated, as many lawyers involved believed it would be.
    $850K is an awful lot of money to pay to make a meritless case that had already been dismissed go away
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