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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    bunch of whiny ass babies. squeal harassment as the drop of a hat. you can't look as someone crosswise without some idiot squealing harassment. All it does is water down the seriousness of the charge so that when someone is actually harassed, no one takes them seriously.

    it's just like the continual bleating cries of racism
    Looking crosswise is one thing. Comments about a woman's form or suggesting an act cannot be construed as looking crosswise. Neither belongs in the workplace.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    what "cases"? this thread is talking about one specific case and one specific instance. I have no idea and have made no claims on whether or not he harassed any of the other accusers.

    but hey..thanks for maintaining your integrity and as always....thanks for playing
    Are you lost? This thread, "Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story," is about one of the accusers who filed a complaint against Cain and said she wanted to go public with her story.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    he is a serial jerk, not a harasser. sorry you don't like it
    Sorry, it is a pattern of harassment. It doesn't belong in the workplace, period and in fact goes to a hostile work environment since it would surely be discussed and women would be intimidated any time they encountered him. They would have no idea he was skirting his perceived notion of what constitutes harassment and wouldn't do it a second time. If it happened once, even without knowing 999 women had been told the same thing, I would be shying from further encounters with the same man.
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    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Looking crosswise is one thing. Comments about a woman's form or suggesting an act cannot be construed as looking crosswise. Neither belongs in the workplace.
    and I have never said they do. however, just because a guy is a rude asshole does not make him guilty of sexaul harassment.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Sorry, it is a pattern of harassment. It doesn't belong in the workplace, period and in fact goes to a hostile work environment since it would surely be discussed and women would be intimidated any time they encountered him. They would have no idea he was skirting his perceived notion of what constitutes harassment and wouldn't do it a second time. If it happened once, even without knowing 999 women had been told the same thing, I would be shying from further encounters with the same man.
    then he is guilty of creating a hostile work environment....NOT sexual harassment. sexual harassment is a very specific charge. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. I think you are under the misimpression that I am excusing such behavior. I am not, it just isn't harassment
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    then he is guilty of creating a hostile work environment....NOT sexual harassment. sexual harassment is a very specific charge. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. I think you are under the misimpression that I am excusing such behavior. I am not, it just isn't harassment
    Sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination that violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitutes sexual harassment when submission to or rejection of this conduct explicitly or implicitly affects an individual's employment, unreasonably interferes with an individual's work performance or creates an intimidating, hostile or offensive work environment.
    You give that impression Oscar, especially in the face of multiple explanations of what constitutes sexual harassment, which makes me wonder why is it so hard for you to understand. Why do you think it is a defensible position to say, he only did it once. If you think she has to wait for him to do it again, you are suggesting she has to tolerate it until then, or forever if he doesn't. You have set that threshold.
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
    This is the important stuff. We canít get lost in discrimination. We canít get lost in B.S. We canít get lost tearing each other down. I want to make a point here that no matter what you look like, where you come from, how you worship, who you love, how you identify, and yeah, how you run, that if you have good public policy ideas, if you are well qualified for office, bring those ideas to the table, because this is your America, too. This is our commonwealth of Virginia, too.
    Danica Roem - The nation's first openly transgender person elected to serve in a U.S. state legislature.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    then he is guilty of creating a hostile work environment....NOT sexual harassment. sexual harassment is a very specific charge. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. I think you are under the misimpression that I am excusing such behavior. I am not, it just isn't harassment
    Hostile work environment IS an element of sexual harassment. The legal definition: “unwelcome verbal, visual, or physical conduct of a sexual nature that is severe or pervasive and affects working conditions or creates a hostile work environment.”

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    then he is guilty of creating a hostile work environment....NOT sexual harassment. sexual harassment is a very specific charge. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. I think you are under the misimpression that I am excusing such behavior. I am not, it just isn't harassment

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    Hostile work environment IS an element of sexual harassment. The legal definition: ďunwelcome verbal, visual, or physical conduct of a sexual nature that is severe or pervasive and affects working conditions or creates a hostile work environment.Ē
    Ouch! That one's gonna leave a bruise.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Conservatives' are doing a lot of 'smelling' right now. You do not have to smell anything: Cain is innocent until proven guilty of any new charges, however, any previous suits that he settled in are admissions of guilt.
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    not unless the settlement agreement stipulated to his guilt. usually, the settlement agreement will assert that there was no finding of wrongdoing. that's what the defending party is buying with its money ... that and an expectation of confidentiality
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Are you lost? This thread, "Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story," is about one of the accusers who filed a complaint against Cain and said she wanted to go public with her story.
    perhaps, for once, you are correct. I thought we were just talking about the most recent incident to come to light. not the previous cases where they settled. my apologies
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