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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    they didn't pluralize the verbs for the sake of grammar. saying "you have nice tits" to someone ONE time is not harassment


    I have said it was a pattern of inappropriate behavior. sorry but I don't make the rules. he could have made that comment to 1000 separate women and it would not have been harassment.
    Fine, play verbal games, the fact is it is not spelled out a person has to wait for a second incident.

    Sorry, but that is exactly a pattern of behavior. If it happened where I worked and more than one woman came forward with a one time incident, that is exactly how it would have been dealt with. He cannot fall back on, I only did it once because he didn't. He did it 1000 times.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Are you under the impression that there are no laws against sexual harrassment in the workplace? The EEOC would disagree with you.
    have you actually read any of my posts?
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post

    I loved the Ken Starr report that detailed BJ Clenis flogging his log in the bathroom sink in a White House office. Of course we also have the jizz stained dress, the Jennifer Flowers tapes, the human humidor Lewinsky, etc., etc. Yeah dude, that man was clearly had his urges under control.
    A lot of Conservatives loved it -- to them, Ken Starr's report was pornagraphy.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

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    Fine, play verbal games, the fact is it is not spelled out a person has to wait for a second incident.

    Sorry, but that is exactly a pattern of behavior. If it happened where I worked and more than one woman came forward with a one time incident, that is exactly how it would have been dealt with. He cannot fall back on, I only did it once because he didn't. He did it 1000 times.
    he is a serial jerk, not a harasser. sorry you don't like it
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    so you admit that since Cain did not rape her and his actions were not pervasive...he did not harass her. nice to clear that up
    Keep spinning, I never said that. Glad you think you've got it all cleared up though.

    By the way, I'm still waiting to hear how you know the cases of sexual harassment filed against Herman Cain were not pervasive?



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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    bunch of whiny ass babies. squeal harassment as the drop of a hat. you can't look as someone crosswise without some idiot squealing harassment. All it does is water down the seriousness of the charge so that when someone is actually harassed, no one takes them seriously.

    it's just like the continual bleating cries of racism
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    By the way, I'm still waiting to hear how you know the cases of sexual harassment filed against Herman Cain were not pervasive?


    what "cases"? this thread is talking about one specific case and one specific instance. I have no idea and have made no claims on whether or not he harassed any of the other accusers.

    but hey..thanks for maintaining your integrity and as always....thanks for playing
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    wrong bucko, settlement is admission of nothing. at least that's what you guys told us when Clinton paid his settlement to Paula Jones.
    I disagree. I think almost all settlements are essentially saying, "hey we can take draw this out over years and years and pay tons of lawyer fees - and I will probably lose - or we take care of this right now for a much smaller amount."

    And your idea of sexual harassment? Have you ever worked anywhere?
    Sexual harassment includes many things...
    ∑ Actual or attempted rape or sexual assault.
    ∑ Unwanted pressure for sexual favors.
    ∑ Unwanted deliberate touching, leaning over, cornering, or pinching.
    ∑ Unwanted sexual looks or gestures.
    ∑ Unwanted letters, telephone calls, or materials of a sexual nature. - { PAGE } -
    ∑ Unwanted pressure for dates.
    ∑ Unwanted sexual teasing, jokes, remarks, or questions.
    ∑ Referring to an adult as a girl, hunk, doll, babe, or honey.
    ∑ Whistling at someone.
    ∑ Cat calls.
    ∑ Sexual comments.
    ∑ Turning work discussions to sexual topics.
    ∑ Sexual innuendos or stories.
    ∑ Asking about sexual fantasies, preferences, or history.
    ∑ Personal questions about social or sexual life.
    ∑ Sexual comments about a person's clothing, anatomy, or looks.
    ∑ Kissing sounds, howling, and smacking lips.
    ∑ Telling lies or spreading rumors about a person's personal sex life.
    ∑ Neck massage.
    ∑ Touching an employee's clothing, hair, or body.
    ∑ Giving personal gifts.
    ∑ Hanging around a person.
    ∑ Hugging, kissing, patting, or stroking.
    ∑ Touching or rubbing oneself sexually around another person.
    ∑ Standing close or brushing up against a person.
    ∑ Looking a person up and down (elevator eyes).
    ∑ Staring at someone.
    ∑ Sexually suggestive signals.
    ∑ Facial expressions, winking, throwing kisses, or licking lips.
    ∑ Making sexual gestures with hands or through body movements. - { PAGE } -
    {PRIVATE}Examples
    VERBAL
    ∑ Referring to an adult as a girl, hunk, doll, babe, or honey
    ∑ Whistling at someone, cat calls
    ∑ Making sexual comments about a person's body
    ∑ Making sexual comments or innuendos
    ∑ Turning work discussions to sexual topics
    ∑ Telling sexual jokes or stories
    ∑ Asking about sexual fantasies, preferences, or history
    ∑ Asking personal questions about social or sexual life
    ∑ Making kissing sounds, howling, and smacking lips
    ∑ Making sexual comments about a person's clothing, anatomy, or looks
    ∑ Repeatedly asking out a person who is not interested
    ∑ Telling lies or spreading rumors about a person's personal sex life
    NON-VERBAL
    ∑ Looking a person up and down (Elevator eyes)
    ∑ Staring at someone
    ∑ Blocking a person's path
    ∑ Following the person
    ∑ Giving personal gifts
    ∑ Displaying sexually suggestive visuals
    ∑ Making sexual gestures with hands or through body movements
    ∑ Making facial expressions such as winking, throwing kisses, or licking lips
    PHYSICAL
    ∑ Giving a massage around the neck or shoulders - { PAGE } -
    ∑ Touching the person's clothing, hair, or body
    ∑ Hugging, kissing, patting, or stroking
    ∑ Touching or rubbing oneself sexually around another person
    ∑ Standing close or brushing up against another person
    It's not that hard. Quit changing your view of things to defend him. Look, maybe he did sexually harass some women - that doesn't need to change your view of him. But don't sit here and play the "deny, deny, deny" game and verbal semantics just so you can justify it in your head.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    unless he raped her, you showing me that rape qualifies is irrelevent. but thanks for playing
    Showing you that rape qualifies as sexual harassment was completely relevant in proving your bogus claim that sexual harassment must be pervasive was bogus.

    And you're playing? You're getting squashed like a bug on a windshield.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    company policy is not law and if she complains she is not tolerating the action. if she allows me to make a comment and doesn't complain, she is tolerating it
    It functions as law when a person can lose their job for one offense.

    If she allows you to make the comment, then she doesn't view it as harassment and there is no issue, I agree. But she shouldn't have to tolerate it even once, if she feels it's harassment. Again, this goes to professional and workplace appropriate conduct.

    You didn't address the difference between commenting about her tits and an act.
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
    This is the important stuff. We canít get lost in discrimination. We canít get lost in B.S. We canít get lost tearing each other down. I want to make a point here that no matter what you look like, where you come from, how you worship, who you love, how you identify, and yeah, how you run, that if you have good public policy ideas, if you are well qualified for office, bring those ideas to the table, because this is your America, too. This is our commonwealth of Virginia, too.
    Danica Roem - The nation's first openly transgender person elected to serve in a U.S. state legislature.

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