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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    maybe the civies do it differently. but I can tell you from years of experience doing investigations for the military, that in order to qualify as harassment the behavior has to continue after the "harasser" has been told to stop and the "victim" has to tell the "harasser" that the behavior is unwanted.

    cases of "severe" (as sheik likes to bleat) one time actions such as assault and rape are not treated as harassment but are treated as assault and rape.


    sexual assault =/= rape =/= harassment
    Maybe we do it differently in the private sector because if you walk up to any subordinate or even your peer and expect to get away with telling her she has nice tits, you are sadly mistaken. I addressed sexual harassment as part of an HR staff back in the early 90's, after the Clarence Thomas hearings. It was communicated to all employees, there was zero tolerance. There was no first time "free pass".

    While suggesting a woman has nice tits is on the more benign side, should she have to tolerate the suggestion of an actual act because you only made it once?
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

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    What about the other four women? Were they neighbors of Plouffe?
    I wouldn't know since they don't have the guts to come forward.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Conservatives' are doing a lot of 'smelling' right now. You do not have to smell anything: Cain is innocent until proven guilty of any new charges, however, any previous suits that he settled in are admissions of guilt.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Maybe we do it differently in the private sector because if you walk up to any subordinate or even your peer and expect to get away with telling her she has nice tits, you are sadly mistaken. I addressed sexual harassment as part of an HR staff back in the early 90's, after the Clarence Thomas hearings. It was communicated to all employees, there was zero tolerance. There was no first time "free pass".

    While suggesting a woman has nice tits is on the more benign side, should she have to tolerate the suggestion of an actual act because you only made it once?
    company policy is not law and if she complains she is not tolerating the action. if she allows me to make a comment and doesn't complain, she is tolerating it
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    I wouldn't know since they don't have the guts to come forward.
    They don't have the legal right to come forward as they were required to sign confidentiality agreements. Nor do they appear interested in becoming celebrities.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    company policy is not law and if she complains she is not tolerating the action. if she allows me to make a comment and doesn't complain, she is tolerating it
    Are you under the impression that there are no laws against sexual harrassment in the workplace? The EEOC would disagree with you.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    you are the one spinning. trying to compare what Cain did to rape
    I never did. You did.

    I was the one who posted that rape can constitute as a "one-time" case of sexual harassment. I never applied that to Cain or any of the women claiming Cain sexually harassed them. In response to you posting how sexual harassment must be pervasive, I posted that cases of rape prove you wrong. I said nothing about Cain or his bevy of women.

    You did...

    In response to me showing you that rape qualifies as a "severe" case of sexual harassment, you suggested, "since she didn't call the cops...she must not have thought it was all that severe"

    You keep spinning like that and you're gonna fall down.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Conservatives' are doing a lot of 'smelling' right now. You do not have to smell anything: Cain is innocent until proven guilty of any new charges, however, any previous suits that he settled in are admissions of guilt.
    wrong bucko, settlement is admission of nothing. at least that's what you guys told us when Clinton paid his settlement to Paula Jones.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    wrong bucko, settlement is admission of nothing. at least that's what you guys told us when Clinton paid his settlement to Paula Jones.
    It depends on the wording of the settlement, but usually there is no admission of guilt.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I never did. You did.

    I was the one who posted that rape can constitute as a "one-time" case of sexual harassment. I never applied that to Cain or any of the women claiming Cain sexually harassed them. In response to you posting how sexual harassment must be pervasive, I posted that cases of rape prove you wrong. I said nothing about Cain or his bevy of women.

    You did...


    In response to me showing you that rape qualifies as a "severe" case of sexual harassment, you suggested, "since she didn't call the cops...she must not have thought it was all that severe"

    You keep spinning like that and you're gonna fall down.
    so you admit that since Cain did not rape her and his actions were not pervasive...he did not harass her. nice to clear that up
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