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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    with 4 separate individuals. that is a pattern of rude behavior NOT harassment.
    no, not true. where do you get that oscar?

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    don't you think you should treat cain the same way republicans treated clinton?
    sure...let him be POTUS for two terms
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    no, not true. where do you get that oscar?
    from the actual legal definition of harassment.

    Sexual harassment refers to persistent and unwanted sexual advances, typically in the workplace, where the consequences of refusing are potentially very disadvantageous to the victim.
    If I make a rude/crude comment to you and you do not tell me to stop, I have no way of knowing that such behavior is unwanted. therefore if I continue it is not harassment.

    If I make a rude/crude comment to you and you tell me to stop, and I do, it is not harassment because the behavior is not persistent
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    with 4 separate individuals. that is a pattern of rude behavior NOT harassment.


    If I tell 4 women "you have nice tits" that is not harassment

    If I tell the same woman 4 times "you have nice tits" that would be harassment and only then if she told me to stop and I did not.

    we are forced to attend EO/SH training on a regular basis. It is harped upon and hammered home all the smegging time.
    Wait, what? There is a certain number of incidents she has to tolerate before she can report it?
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    with 4 separate individuals. that is a pattern of rude behavior NOT harassment.


    If I tell 4 women "you have nice tits" that is not harassment

    If I tell the same woman 4 times "you have nice tits" that would be harassment and only then if she told me to stop and I did not.

    we are forced to attend EO/SH training on a regular basis. It is harped upon and hammered home all the smegging time.
    That is a fundamental misunderstanding of sexual harassment.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Looks like our dear accuser has a long history of financial struggles and legal battles with creditors.

    Herman Cain accuser has history of financial troubles, legal squabbles - chicagotribune.com

    I'm sure she never considered bilking an employer for cash to help pay off some of this. That never happens.

    If he truly sexually harassed her, why settle for so little money? Sorry, I don't buy what some bat@#$% crazy woman says, who appears to live her life with no sense of personal or financial responsiblity. She sounds like someone on Judge Judy.

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

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    So a woman is supposed to ignore the first time it happens and wait for a pattern to emerge before reporting it?
    Not necessarily. It depends on the nature of the harassment...


    Sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination.The legal definition of sexual harassment is ďunwelcome verbal, visual, or physical conduct of a sexual nature that is severe or pervasive and affects working conditions or creates a hostile work environment.Ē

    ERA: Sexual Harassment at Work

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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    from the actual legal definition of harassment.



    a one time incident is NOT persistent
    Where did you get that from?
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
    This is the important stuff. We canít get lost in discrimination. We canít get lost in B.S. We canít get lost tearing each other down. I want to make a point here that no matter what you look like, where you come from, how you worship, who you love, how you identify, and yeah, how you run, that if you have good public policy ideas, if you are well qualified for office, bring those ideas to the table, because this is your America, too. This is our commonwealth of Virginia, too.
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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    from the actual legal definition of harassment.



    a one time incident is NOT persistent
    but you're referring to ONE of his accusers, not the 2 who received settlements. anyway, i'm not sure harassment has to be persistent.
    Last edited by liblady; 11-08-11 at 12:12 PM.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Lawyer: Cain accuser wants to tell her side of story

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    from the actual legal definition of harassment.



    a one time incident is NOT persistent
    let's compare notes:
    ... Courts and employers generally use the definition of sexual harassment contained in the guidelines of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). This language has also formed the basis for most state laws prohibiting sexual harassment. The guidelines state:

    Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitute sexual harassment when

    submission to such conduct is made either explicitly or implicitly a term or condition of an individual's employment,
    submission to or rejection of such conduct by an individual is used as the basis for employment decisions affecting such individuals, or
    such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual's work performance or creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment. (29 C.F.R. ß 1604.11 [1980]) ...
    sexual harassment legal definition of sexual harassment. sexual harassment synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.


    while a trend would likely be more damning, i do not see where a persistent pattern must be evident to find that sexual harassment was committed
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