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Supporting Cain, GOP base evokes Thomas hearings

apdst said:
That's not necessarily true and we all know it.
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Agreed. But it doesn't mean he isn't guilty either. It also means there should be a record we could look at in order to help determine the truth.
 
Boo Radley said:
Agreed. But it doesn't mean he isn't guilty either. It also means there should be a record we could look at in order to help determine the truth.
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We won't ever see it. The two women in question aren't going to agree to release all the information. And, if they do, I'm going to be that it's a piss poor case for sexual harassment. If had really been that big of a deal, she wouldn't have settled for 35 grand.
 
AdamT said:
Why would she bluff? She won a $35,000 settlement. The NRA would not have paid that settlement if she had no case at all.
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Well, one hopes that they made a rational decisions about the costs of defending against her allegations vs the costs of buying her off.
While that is related to the strength of her case, it's not necessarily an indication of the strength of her case. The NRA may have just had very expensive lawyers.
 
apdst said:
We won't ever see it. The two women in question aren't going to agree to release all the information. And, if they do, I'm going to be that it's a piss poor case for sexual harassment. If had really been that big of a deal, she wouldn't have settled for 35 grand.
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We'll see. But would you agree it's premature to jump to conclusions yet?
 
Boo Radley said:
Agreed. But it doesn't mean he isn't guilty either. It also means there should be a record we could look at in order to help determine the truth.
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Which means no one knows and there are no open records. So why is it even being discussed?
 
Grant said:
Which means no one knows and there are no open records. So why is it even being discussed?
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Cause Cain flubbed it. There's a report that the issue was brought to the attention of his campaign days before it was made public. This is really a small potatoes issue that Cain made a big deal of by failing to remember.
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"While the Cain campaign had first been approached by Politico 10 days before the story was first published, the candidate himself said he was only remembering many details of the incident on Monday."​
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Will alleged sexual antics or cover-up sink Cain? - CNN.com
 
Grant said:
Which means no one knows and there are no open records. So why is it even being discussed?
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Because of what we do know, there was an accusation in which the accuser was paid a settlement. As note above, Cain could have delt with this much easier and killed it early. He ddin't, which does show a certain amount of incompetence, though a flawed shared by many before him.
 
AdamT said:
And once again the conservatives play the race card.

I guarantee you that this would have come out no matter who the candidate was, or what his or her race was. Same thing with Thomas.

Incidentally, in case you missed it, a former long-time girlfriend of Thomas' recently confirmed many of Anita Hill's allegations. Thomas should never have been confirmed.

Lillian McEwen breaks her 19-year silence about Justice Clarence Thomas
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So now that she's retired and hawking her memoirs she finally confirms what Hill put her reputation and career on the line for all those years ago. The coward. Thanks to her, we've got a pervert on the supreme court... for life!

I won't be buying her damned book.
 
Grant said:
Which means no one knows and there are no open records. So why is it even being discussed?
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ARe you saying it should be ignored? And are you saying it because you like Cain, or did you say the same about Bill Clinton?
 
apdst said:
You're going to feel awful silly when Herman Cain spanks Obama's ass in the general election.
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I hope that you do everything that you can to help Cain get the nomination. I know I am! I agree that with Palin out of the race, there is no better candidate for the GOP than Herman Cain. We need to get the GOP to know that he is a serious candidate and get them off the Romney train.....so I think we are in the same camp on this one.
 
disneydude said:
I agree absolutely. Republicans should use this as a rallying cry to get behind Cain. Reject Romney....he is way too much of a moderate RINO for today's GOP. Cain is the only legitimate challenger in Romney's path and as true Republicans, you guys should do everything that you can to prevent Romney from getting the nomination. Cain much better represents the GOP values of today and hopefully these allegations will serve only to rally the Republican party behind Cain!
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So you have given up on the Repubs nominating Palin and now have thrown your full weight behind Cain? Front runner!
 
rocket88 said:
ARe you saying it should be ignored? And are you saying it because you like Cain, or did you say the same about Bill Clinton?
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I never minded Clinton when he had that affair with Gennifer Flowers. It wasn't until he committed perjury in front of a Grand Jury, the rape charges and payoffs surfaced and the way Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp were publicly vilified by his people and the media. Far worse than Bill Clinton, in man ways, were Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd.
 
disneydude said:
I hope that you do everything that you can to help Cain get the nomination. I know I am! I agree that with Palin out of the race, there is no better candidate for the GOP than Herman Cain. We need to get the GOP to know that he is a serious candidate and get them off the Romney train.....so I think we are in the same camp on this one.
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Has Cain's book tour lasted longer than Palin's or does it just feel like it has?
 
Originally Posted by AdamT

Why would she bluff? She won a $35,000 settlement. The NRA would not have paid that settlement if she had no case at all.
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apdst said:
That's not necessarily true and we all know it.
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Yes, it is true. When I say "no case at all" I mean a case so weak it could be defeated in a motion to dismiss. The Association wouldn't have settled if the claims were demonstrably bogus.

That's not the same as saying that the claims *weren't* bogus, but it probably would have come down to a he-said-she-said situation which would require litigation.
 
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