Thread: Supporting Cain, GOP base evokes Thomas hearings

Originally Posted by tessaesque

But it's all a matter of perspective. If he's innocent orguilty, it could be that he never took it seriously. It could be either that he knew he was innocent and didn't worry hismelf with it, or it could be that he was guilty but felt he did nothing worth worrying over.

It's a serious accusation. If he didn't take it seriously, that's just a different character flaw, imho.

Originally Posted by tessaesque

There are plenty of times I've been put on the hot seat for something and I couldn't give you exact details. I vaguely remember an incident when I thought a former employer would be sued over my actions, but I couldn't tell you exact details...and that incident was only about 6 years ago, not 20.

Yet you remember it happened.

Originally Posted by tessaesque

Information will come out, and hopefully in a timely manner. When it does, I'll judge. Until then I don't want to cast aspersions against him or make Chicken Little claims.

I am not making any judgment about whether or not he did what he was accused of--I don't have to. The fact that he's been funny about it is enough with no need to go further.

Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon

It's a serious accusation. If he didn't take it seriously, that's just a different character flaw, imho.

If I accused you of being an idiot would you take it seriously? Of course you wouldn't, nor should you. The fact is that we should just dismiss ridiculous gossip like this, especially during an election cycle. The country is mored in debt and people are worried that Herman Cain MAY have done something somewhat inappropriate a dozen years ago?

This is a time when the country needs adults, not juvenile gossip mongers.

Originally Posted by Grant

If I accused you of being an idiot would you take it seriously? Of course you wouldn't, nor should you.

Your accusation has about zero chance of having meaningful repercussions.
An accusation of sexual harassment has the potential for actual real-world repercussions. For example, the NRA settled with the ladies. That money came from somewhere.

One is an opinion, (the calling someone an idiot), and the other is a matter of facts. They would not have settled with you for accusing Cain of being an idiot.

There are more differences than these two. Since there are these major differences, I don't find your analogy to be compelling at all.

Originally Posted by Grant

The country is mored in debt and people are worried that Herman Cain MAY have done something somewhat inappropriate a dozen years ago?

It was earlier this year when he acted dodgy about it. And, to be fair, he is asking us, the electorate to make a judgment about his fitness for the presidency.

Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon

Your accusation has about zero chance of having meaningful repercussions.
An accusation of sexual harassment has the potential for actual real-world repercussions. For example, the NRA settled with the ladies. That money came from somewhere.

One is an opinion, (the calling someone an idiot), and the other is a matter of facts. They would not have settled with you for accusing Cain of being an idiot.

There are more differences than these two. Since there are these major differences, I don't find your analogy to be compelling at all.

It was earlier this year when he acted dodgy about it. And, to be fair, he is asking us, the electorate to make a judgment about his fitness for the presidency.

Using that set of parameters, was Clinton fit?


j-mac

Originally Posted by j-mac

Using that set of parameters, was Clinton fit?


j-mac

Don't look at Cain, look at Clinton! It never stops...More cheeze!

Originally Posted by Manc Skipper

Don't look at Cain, look at Clinton! It never stops...More cheeze!

Liberals have gone out of their way to defend Clinton and his infidelity with woman. Herman Cain doesn't even remotely come close to what slick Willie has done in the department of sexual infidelity.

Originally Posted by Manc Skipper

Don't look at Cain, look at Clinton! It never stops...More cheeze!

What's the matter? are we only to focus on republicans? Demo's get a pass? Sounds like you are the one in need of cheese.

j-mac

Originally Posted by tessaesque

"high-tech lynching" was from the news story. You should ask the author which conservatives made those statements instead of indicating that all republicans chose the phrase.

Ahh.

So like just because one person sees something in a racial context and writes about it, doesn't mean everyone remotely related to that person also sees it that way?

Fascinating concept.

Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon

Your accusation has about zero chance of having meaningful repercussions.
An accusation of sexual harassment has the potential for actual real-world repercussions. For example, the NRA settled with the ladies. That money came from somewhere.

One is an opinion, (the calling someone an idiot), and the other is a matter of facts. They would not have settled with you for accusing Cain of being an idiot.

There are more differences than these two. Since there are these major differences, I don't find your analogy to be compelling at all.

It was earlier this year when he acted dodgy about it. And, to be fair, he is asking us, the electorate to make a judgment about his fitness for the presidency.

If the US public is going to dismiss a candidate because of sexual innuendos and gossip then they deserve what they get. I have confidence enough in the electorate though that if Herman Cain is not a viable candidate then it will be for reasons other than as a result of political smearing.

Originally Posted by Manc Skipper

Don't look at Cain, look at Clinton! It never stops...More cheeze!

Clinton and Ted Kennedy had the worst reputations of any DC politicians, including charges of rape. Clinton was impeached for lying to a Grand Jury of course and Ted Kennedy had Chappaquiddick.

The left has defended these serial gropers for decades but will rise up in righteous indignation against Herman Cain because of a innuendo from 12 years ago.

Is it any wonder that the Left is so frequently the subject of ridicule and not often thought of as serious adults?