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    Firms to charge smokers & obese more for healthcare

    Insight: Firms to charge smokers, obese more for healthcare - Yahoo! News


    Like a lot of companies, Veridian Credit Union wants its employees to be healthier. In January, the Waterloo, Iowa-company rolled out a wellness program and voluntary screenings.

    It also gave workers a mandate - quit smoking, curb obesity, or you'll be paying higher healthcare costs in 2013. It doesn't yet know by how much, but one thing's for certain - the unhealthy will pay more.


    LOVE IT!!!

    smokers, the obese, and folks who participate in other very unhealthy lifestypes should TOTALLY pay higher premiums and co-pays.

    why? because their lifestyle costs the rest of us healthy people.
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    I don't mind this, but you will get lots of the talk about how those two problems are linked to poverty and can't be helped in some cases and such like.

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    Re: Firms to charge smokers & obese more for healthcare

    Don't whine when they raise rates for people who skateboard, snowboard, snowski, skydive, rock-climb... or work in energy, construction, chemical factories, or any profession that drives a lot... or owns a sports car or muscle car or or or....

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    Re: Firms to charge smokers & obese more for healthcare

    I don't have a particular problem with this, but it should be noted that one's obesity is not necessarily their own fault.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Firms to charge smokers & obese more for healthcare

    I have no problem with this, as long as it doesn't get out of hand and they start labeling other non-related things as "higher risk".

    Insurance companies will do anything to leech that extra dollar right out of you.

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    Re: Firms to charge smokers & obese more for healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I don't have a particular problem with this, but it should be noted that one's obesity is not necessarily their own fault.
    This is a great point.

    I use to have the idea that if you were obese, it was purely your own gluttony that was the issue.

    Now while I don't usually indulge in Reality TV (Absolutely hate it) I did watch a couple of episodes of the biggest loser. And you find alot of these people ended up in a downward spiral emotionally and mentally that led them to that place. And some people choose Meth, coke, weed or alcohol, and some people choose food.

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    Re: Firms to charge smokers & obese more for healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Don't whine when they raise rates for people who skateboard, snowboard, snowski, skydive, rock-climb... or work in energy, construction, chemical factories, or any profession that drives a lot... or owns a sports car or muscle car or or or....
    Interesting point.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Firms to charge smokers & obese more for healthcare

    Open discrimination to be honest, why not charge old people double the standard because of the costs they accrue?

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    Re: Firms to charge smokers & obese more for healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This is a great point.

    I use to have the idea that if you were obese, it was purely your own gluttony that was the issue.

    Now while I don't usually indulge in Reality TV (Absolutely hate it) I did watch a couple of episodes of the biggest loser. And you find alot of these people ended up in a downward spiral emotionally and mentally that led them to that place. And some people choose Meth, coke, weed or alcohol, and some people choose food.
    Good points, Jet. However, I was referring more to obesity as a genetic condition.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Firms to charge smokers & obese more for healthcare

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Open discrimination to be honest, why not charge old people double the standard because of the costs they accrue?
    This is essentially the primary problem with the insurance industry. It makes perfect economic sense to discriminate. Socially, that's another story.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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