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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    I don't know as I don't pay attention as most of these are unattainable campaign promises crap...just like BHO did three years ago (Gitmo, no-bid contracts, etal).
    If you had paid attention you would have known that Obama has a much better record of keeping his promises than the GOP leadership in Congress:

    "Obama has kept 159 promises with 179 in the works vs the GOP has kept 9 promises with 14 in the works."

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you had paid attention you would have known that Obama has a much better record of keeping his promises than the GOP leadership in Congress:

    "Obama has kept 159 promises with 179 in the works vs the GOP has kept 9 promises with 14 in the works."

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
    Yes, I know all that. He HAS kept some promises and am not arguing that. The attention that I haven't been keeping is on the mirad of promises the GOP has been making on their respective campaigns such as 'get rid of Headstart and the Department of Education' (as you posted). My point was merely that ALL politicians throughout history have made campaign promises that were not kept and BHO is no different.

    p.s. I find it quite interesting that you failed to mention the 54 BROKEN as stated from your source. Why was that?

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Obama has kept 159 promises with 179 in the works vs the GOP has kept 9 promises with 14 in the works."
    Now for the partisan hack response…If you had taken the time to analyze the data from the link you provided you would have noticed that on a percentage basis the Congressional ‘promises record’ is FAR better than BHO’s:

    Kept
    GOP – 15.7%
    BHO – 14.1%
    Broken
    GOP – 1.75%
    BHO – 19.0%
    Stalled
    GOP – 8.7%
    BHO – 50.7%


    Their promises kept is pretty close but BHO has broken 10x more promises than Congress…Better, ya’ think? Really?

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Yes, I know all that. He HAS kept some promises and am not arguing that. The attention that I haven't been keeping is on the mirad of promises the GOP has been making on their respective campaigns such as 'get rid of Headstart and the Department of Education' (as you posted). My point was merely that ALL politicians throughout history have made campaign promises that were not kept and BHO is no different.

    p.s. I find it quite interesting that you failed to mention the 54 BROKEN as stated from your source. Why was that?
    Yes, none keep all their promises, agreed. However, I've already documented the statistics that show the records are quite different in promises kept by Obama and the GOP leadership in Congress. And it seems that is reflected in the job approval rating of Obama at 43% and the job approval rating of the 2010 Congress at 9%.
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Now for the partisan hack response…If you had taken the time to analyze the data from the link you provided you would have noticed that on a percentage basis the Congressional ‘promises record’ is FAR better than BHO’s:

    Kept
    GOP – 15.7%
    BHO – 14.1%
    Broken
    GOP – 1.75%
    BHO – 19.0%
    Stalled
    GOP – 8.7%
    BHO – 50.7%


    Their promises kept is pretty close but BHO has broken 10x more promises than Congress…Better, ya’ think? Really?

    Most of the promises broken by Obama are due to the 2010 congress. It is interesting that you seem to prefer the party that flat out hardly makes any promises to the middle class.
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Most of the promises broken by Obama are due to the 2010 congress. It is interesting that you seem to prefer the party that flat out hardly makes any promises to the middle class.
    WOW...play the blame game often? Couldn't Congress claim the same? Can you provide detailed information supporting 'most' due to Congress? One could argue that BHO CAN get things done via executive order where Congress cannot without Presidential support.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Most of the promises broken by Obama are due to the 2010 congress. It is interesting that you seem to prefer the party that flat out hardly makes any promises to the middle class.
    You seem to have overlooked those two years where the Dems had absolute power, with an ability to follow through with every campaign promise made.

    But if promises are what interests you, without any intent of follow through, then you must enjoy the campaigns and the wishful thinking rather than the reality. That is not an uncommon trait among leftists. The dream is always preferable to the reality.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You seem to have overlooked those two years where the Dems had absolute power, with an ability to follow through with every campaign promise made.

    But if promises are what interests you, without any intent of follow through, then you must enjoy the campaigns and the wishful thinking rather than the reality. That is not an uncommon trait among leftists. The dream is always preferable to the reality.
    You seem to be under the illusion that Obama could, or should be able to expect 100% support from every Democratic member of the Senate. In other words, just because there were 60 Democrats in the Senate didn't mean that Obama could do whatever he wanted.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You seem to be under the illusion that Obama could, or should be able to expect 100% support from every Democratic member of the Senate. In other words, just because there were 60 Democrats in the Senate didn't mean that Obama could do whatever he wanted.
    Then it seems clear he was making promises he couldn't keep, wouldn't keep, or had no intention of keeping. But it also seems those same people who fell for his false promises still support him. This is very strange.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    WOW...play the blame game often? Couldn't Congress claim the same? Can you provide detailed information supporting 'most' due to Congress? One could argue that BHO CAN get things done via executive order where Congress cannot without Presidential support.
    I think the fact that Obama's approval rating is 43% and the 2010 Congress approval rating at 9% indicates who the American people think has fulfilled their promises the least.
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