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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    I strongly believe things could be much worse. We have a 90% employment rate right now. Pretty good for what we are characterizing as the worse economic crisis since the Great Depression. So, we don't want to do anything to tip the balance. We are in survival mode right now. Like I said, plenty of loopholes to close and other ways of increasing taxes. I am not one of those who absolutely opposes raising taxes. But the Congress has to show some fiscal responsibility.
    Id bet that damn near 40% of that 90% are underemployed and cant pay their bills.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

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    See how that works?


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    So the krotch bros are in charge of the teatards and the teatards control repubo's....ROFL...you guys are a treat seriously

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    So the krotch bros are in charge of the teatards and the teatards control repubo's....ROFL...you guys are a treat seriously

    Yeah, I love how when it is Republican Billionaire supporters that are politically active, then the narrative is all about how they control the party, but when we have the same thing working on the other side, as is the case with Billionaire George Soros, then it is either ignored, or dismissed.


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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    It is a known fact that the Koch Brothers control the Tea Party
    Fact??? Source please.

    and the Tea Party seems to be in control of the GOP.
    The Tea party:
    House - 62 members of 435 representatives (242 GOP) – 25% of GOP
    Senate – 4 members of 100 Senators (47 GOP) – 8% of GOP

    I don’t see how the Tea Party can have control of the GOP considering the minority percentages above. One could argue the Progressive Caucus controls the Democrats. Consider their margins:

    The Progressive Caucus:
    House - 82 members of 435 representatives (192 Dem) – 43% of Dem
    Senate – 1 member of 100 Senators (51 Dem) – 2% of Dem

    What is the source of their control?...Soros?

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    If people only look at Norquist via his infamous tax pledge, they are badly missing the entire picture. Read this

    Grover Norquist Power Extends Beyond Americans For Tax Reform, A Brief look at Who is Really Running Your State Legislature and Training Private Companies To Get What they Want « Frederica Cade's Blog

    Grover is one of the most influential people behind the scenes with ALEC. I am always shocked when most people do not even know what ALEC is. Here in Michigan, we have seen one far right measure after another come through the Michigan legislature in the past eleven months and they are almost always traced back to ALEC and their water carriers and members here.

    ALEC is trying to bring a new American breed of fascism to the USA and have modeled their own structure after the Italians under Mussolini where corporate representatives are given representation and sit right along side the elected representatives of the people and have rights of participation.

    find out much more here

    http://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If people only look at Norquist via his infamous tax pledge, they are badly missing the entire picture. Read this

    Grover Norquist Power Extends Beyond Americans For Tax Reform, A Brief look at Who is Really Running Your State Legislature and Training Private Companies To Get What they Want « Frederica Cade's Blog

    Grover is one of the most influential people behind the scenes with ALEC. I am always shocked when most people do not even know what ALEC is. Here in Michigan, we have seen one far right measure after another come through the Michigan legislature in the past eleven months and they are almost always traced back to ALEC and their water carriers and members here.

    ALEC is trying to bring a new American breed of fascism to the USA and have modeled their own structure after the Italians under Mussolini where corporate representatives are given representation and sit right along side the elected representatives of the people and have rights of participation.

    find out much more here

    ALEC Exposed - Alec Exposed

    Yes, because Thomas Jefferson was an infamous fascist....

    The mission of the American Legislative Exchange Council is…

    … to advance the Jeffersonian principles of free markets, limited government, federalism, and individual liberty, through a nonpartisan public-private partnership of America’s state legislators, members of the private sector, the federal government, and general public.

    to promote these principles by developing policies that ensure the powers of government are derived from, and assigned to, first the People, then the States, and finally, the Federal Government.

    … to enlist state legislators from all parties and members of the private sector who share ALEC’s mission.

    … to conduct a policy making program that unites members of the public and private sectors in a dynamic partnership to support research, policy development, and dissemination activities.

    … to prepare the next generation of political leadership through educational programs that promote the principles of Jeffersonian democracy, which are necessary for a free society.

    About ALEC | ALEC – American Legislative Exchange Council
    They sound absolutely militant authoritarian......


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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If people only look at Norquist via his infamous tax pledge, they are badly missing the entire picture. Grover is one of the most influential people behind the scenes with ALEC. I am always shocked when most people do not even know what ALEC is. Here in Michigan, we have seen one far right measure after another come through the Michigan legislature in the past eleven months and they are almost always traced back to ALEC and their water carriers and members here.
    I had read about this months ago and then tried to figure out who is writing the 'far left measures'. I have yet to figure this out. Do you have any information concerning this?

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    I had read about this months ago and then tried to figure out who is writing the 'far left measures'. I have yet to figure this out. Do you have any information concerning this?
    Tides, Van Jones, Unions, ACLU, Eco-nuts.....etc. Take your pick.


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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    When Bush faced increasing unemployment from a recession that he inherited from Clinton, and the effects of 9/11 exacerbated, those gains cuts spurred the lowest unemployment that this country has seen at 4.5%. Now I am sure you'll give me twisted figures to deny this fact. But I don't expect honesty.


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    None of that does anything to answer the question I put to you. Twice now you have avoided the direct question:

    "Where are the jobs that conservatives said they would create with capital gains tax cuts we continued last year???
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Wow. I really thought I was going to come back to this thread with a ton of flack for my changed position on capital gains taxes.


    I would like to add that these capital gains taxes would NOT apply to a 401K, or some other form of retirement...they would only apply to those capitals gains that are, essentially, income.


    Leave everything else alone, though. Don't raise taxes on incomes, anymore than they already are. Making a capital gains tax competitive with income taxes is, at it's core, simply closing an existing (giant) tax loophole.
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