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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    What it looks like is that a communist government knows how to exercise market control, I would have to question why 279 republicans who sold thier negotiating rights to a republican lobbyist " grover norquist" would care about creating a level playing field for american workers
    It was a simple question, so I'll pose it to you as well...Do you think that living in a communist country would be better than here in the US?

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

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    It was a simple question, so I'll pose it to you as well...Do you think that living in a communist country would be better than here in the US?

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    You are right it was a simple leading question, I understand what you are trying to insinuate, keep trying. The chinese government understands the demands of the market place and is willing to engage in what ever activity they need to in order to gain market share. Our government is handicapped by a government where 279 republicans have sworn to bow down to the commands of one republican lobbyist. Let me repeat it for you 279 republicans have sworn to bow down to the commands of one republican lobbyist. 279 elected republicans signed a pledge to Grover and gave up thier right to think and act for the people who voted for them. When the voter is not the primary author of the way an elected official views his/her job is that the way our system works? Let me ask you a question what type of government is run by dictatorship, why would you vote for a representative who signs a pledge to one republican lobbyist who is working for the two multi-billionaire Koch Brothers?

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    You are right it was a simple leading question, I understand what you are trying to insinuate, keep trying. The chinese government understands the demands of the market place and is willing to engage in what ever activity they need to in order to gain market share. Our government is handicapped by a government where 279 republicans have sworn to bow down to the commands of one republican lobbyist. Let me repeat it for you 279 republicans have sworn to bow down to the commands of one republican lobbyist. 279 elected republicans signed a pledge to Grover and gave up thier right to think and act for the people who voted for them. When the voter is not the primary author of the way an elected official views his/her job is that the way our system works? Let me ask you a question what type of government is run by dictatorship, why would you vote for a representative who signs a pledge to one republican lobbyist who is working for the two multi-billionaire Koch Brothers?

    Ok, I am with you, I can not in good conscience say that I agree with politicians pledging anything other than to uphold the constitution. But you lose me with your attempt to tie Norquist to the Koch Brothers. That would be like me saying that Obama has a secret pledge with Soros...Do you think that true?

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, I am with you, I can not in good conscience say that I agree with politicians pledging anything other than to uphold the constitution. But you lose me with your attempt to tie Norquist to the Koch Brothers. That would be like me saying that Obama has a secret pledge with Soros...Do you think that true?

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    Truth can be sourced Grover owns 279 elected Republicans, The Koch Brothers control Grover, the conservative party is controlled by a few rich people not the people who elected them

    Grover Norquist: The Billionaires' Best Friend | Politics News | Rolling Stone

    Norquist cemented his influence by forging an early alliance with Karl Rove and setting himself up as a gatekeeper to George W. Bush's inner circle. Then, after Obama was elected, this ultimate Washington insider positioned himself as a leader of the anti-establishment Tea Party, complete with financial support from the billionaire Koch brothers. "These Tea Party people, in effect, take their orders from him," says Bruce Bartlett, an architect of the Reagan tax cuts. "He decides: This is a permissible tax action, or this is not a permissible tax action. And of course, anything that cuts taxes is per se OK."

    Today, GOP politicians who have signed Norquist's anti-tax pledge include every top Republican running for president, 13 governors, 1,300 state lawmakers, 40 of the 47 Republicans in the Senate, and 236 of the 242 Republicans in the House. What's more, the GOP's Tea Party foot soldiers are marshaled by House Majority Leader Eric Cantor – a veteran of Norquist's farm team, who first signed the pledge as an ambitious member of the Virginia legislature. Under Cantor's leadership, Norquist's anti-tax pledge was directly responsible for last summer's debt-ceiling standoff that wrecked the nation's credit rating by leading the nation to the brink of default. "Congress was willing to cause severe economic damage to the entire population," marvels Paul O'Neill, Bush's former Treasury secretary, "simply because they were slaves to an idiot's idea of how the world works."

    Read more: Grover Norquist: The Billionaires' Best Friend | Politics News | Rolling Stone

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    We have other ways of taxing besides capital gains. Capital gains is a return on investment. Investments are the most important fuel we have for creating business opportunities and jobs. Raise income taxes if you want. Tax more of personal income. Reduce deductions on certain items. I say leave capital gains alone because you want investments like that to remain a very attractive vheicle to make money.


    Where are the jobs that conservatives said they would create with capital gains tax cuts we continued last year???
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Truth can be sourced Grover owns 279 elected Republicans, The Koch Brothers control Grover, the conservative party is controlled by a few rich people not the people who elected them
    You are relying on an opinion piece from Rolling Stone to make your claim? Really? The person who wrote the piece is Tim Dickinson, a HuffPost contributor, and self prescribed "Progressive American political correspondent" What makes you think that truth has anything to do at all with his writing?

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Truth can be sourced Grover owns 279 elected Republicans, The Koch Brothers control Grover, the conservative party is controlled by a few rich people not the people who elected them
    nah its the freemasons, the trilateral commission and the skull and bones guys



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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Where are the jobs that conservatives said they would create with capital gains tax cuts we continued last year???
    They were there all the way up to the point that the ever lisping Barney Frank and friends started running blocker for Fannie, and Freddie to fend off regulations to buy votes with houses.


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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I know the stardard rhetorical argument from Conservatives/Republicans "why do you hate the rich?, why do you want to take money from wealthy people? all poor people want are hand-outs" and all the other "redistribution of wealth" arguments, but I've got news for you people. It's no longers just Warren Buffet saying "tax me! I'm good for it" to create jobs in America.

    These promonent BILLIONAIRES are also saying "TAX ME! We want to create jobs IN AMERICA because the People want...NEED to work!" Watch these video interviews given by Barbara Walters on ABC's "20/20" of BILLIONAIRES who are saying "TAX ME! CREATE JOBS IN AMERICA!" Even they agree with the Occupiers need to put America back to work!!

    Again, the Occupy Movement IS NOT anti-capitalism. It IS anti-corruption. The People just want a job and for AMERICA to get back to work!!!
    Millionaires and Billionaires are usually educated people, so why won't we listen...

    Are the GOP financial backers really that greedy?

    They'd rather bring the country down than do the right and intelligent thing?

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Millionaires and Billionaires are usually educated people, so why won't we listen...

    Are the GOP financial backers really that greedy?

    They'd rather bring the country down than do the right and intelligent thing?
    So the intelligent thing to you is to keep doing that which has failed for the past 3 years eh? Sounds like the definition of insanity to me.

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