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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's what I said....
    and it is a lie.

    civil servants pay lots of taxes, including federal, state, and local income taxes.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No. That's just what Barrack Obama spent on one useless solar company. Why would you want to take money earned by other people in order that Barrack Obama, someone with no business experience whatsoever, can use it as venture capital to buy useless stock that the smart money won't touch?
    FYI: $500 billion and $500 million are not equal.

    It's too late. That money is not going to make any difference now. It will just encourage more people to leave rather than see their money going down some federal sinkhole.
    What do you mean its too late? Are you thinking the debt that took 30 years to accumulate can be addressed in just a few years? It took 30 years of spending too much and taking in too little revenue. It is going to take the reversed to fix it.


    It doesn't matter. You're still looking for fault rather than looking to the future. Lashing out, blaming this person or that, this partyor that. It's too late. It doesn't matter anymore.
    It doesn't matter except when selecting our future leaders. We need our problems to be addressed, not ignored.



    The rich don't have enough money to get the country out of this massive debt but even if they did, unless attitudes change, the US will just go back in debt again. They simply cannot carry their weight.
    It will take 30 years of more progressive taxation and cutting wasteful spending. There are no magic shortcuts.
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and it is a lie.

    civil servants pay lots of taxes, including federal, state, and local income taxes.
    And where do their wages that get taxed come from?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and it is a lie.

    civil servants pay lots of taxes, including federal, state, and local income taxes.
    No, it's not. Think about it.

    Are there local income taxes? Whose lieing, now?
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    interesting strawman.
    It's not a strawman, it's a question. Answer it if you can, and if not, let someone else.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    interesting strawman.
    Yes , it is interesting but not a strawman.

    In fact there is a limit as to how much taxes people will honestly pay before a black market begins anf there is a revolution of some sort. The idea that the government can just "tax the rich" is true but at what point does it become self defeating?

    At one time the taxes were at 7%, which some might feel too low while 99% is obviously too high.

    So where is the magic spot? That''s the point. And by many Americans leaving the country or sending their businesses elsewhere, it strongly suggests that point has been reached.

    Therefore the problem doesn't appear to be not enough taxing but instead too much spending. In other words the government has to learn to live within its means with what it has. That idea is not as revolutionary as it might seem.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes , it is interesting but not a strawman.

    In fact there is a limit as to how much taxes people will honestly pay before a black market begins anf there is a revolution of some sort...
    you mean like the OWS folks?

    why would there be a "revolution" just because tax-rates return to where they were under Clinton?

    the rich are gonna take up arms and fight the govt.?
    Last edited by Thunder; 10-31-11 at 07:32 PM.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Under that theory, why not raise taxes to 99% and everyone will be rich?
    For pretty much the same reason people take a prescribed daily dosage of medicine rather than drinking the whole bottle at once.
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you mean like the OWS folks?
    I don't know which is more absurd, that you think OWS is revolutionary in any way, or that OWS carries a higher tax burden than say, the 1% that they ignorantly discriminate against and ant to take money from...via taxation.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and it is a lie.

    civil servants pay lots of taxes, including federal, state, and local income taxes.
    The government pays their employee $100,000 a year, for example, and takes back $10,000 (as anther example).

    Net loss to the non-governmental taxpayer is $90,000.

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