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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    So a couple rich people are saying that in order to make jobs in the US, they should fork over more money, and then uncle same, can, what, employ more cops, firemen, and soldiers?

    Someone explain the logic behind this? Why does one need a law in order to say, hey, i want to have more of my money taken away in taxes...? Why not just say, hey, I think I can help, here's some money? Sorry, but this is the reason I don't trust it. There is an agenda here, and it ain't to help the common man.

    Also, again, to think that giving more money to government = more jobs...is just stupid. Already the federal government is the single LARGEST employer in america, more so than any other 2 mega corporations and all their subsidiaries combined. Anyone ever think maybe that's a problem? What happens when the majority of americans work government jobs? They pay taxes on their incomes, which come to them by the good graces of the taxes non government people pay...and then you just watch it all funnel down a drain...
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    NOT QUITE, the Solyndra loan was $535 MILLION...not billion
    Oh my error. Thanks for pointing that out.

    The stimulus was $863 billion and solar companies were part of that package.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    The problem is that this $447b is proposed revenue from 2012-2021. The spending is proposed 2012-2014. Until the revenue is collected we will have to borrow to enable the spending.
    Less money we can waste on the military/industrial complex to create jobs, we spend less on welfare, and help stimulate the economy. I don't see a downside.

    And what if these revenues do not materialize?
    Tax increases, throughout US history, have increased revenues.
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Less money we can waste on the military/industrial complex to create jobs, we spend less on welfare, and help stimulate the economy. I don't see a downside.



    Tax increases, throughout US history, have increased revenues.
    Under that theory, why not raise taxes to 99% and everyone will be rich?

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Under that theory, why not raise taxes to 99% and everyone will be rich?
    interesting strawman.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    it's amazing that so many people are complaining that jobs are leaving America and yet you haven't even noticed, or don't know why.
    Yes, its amazing alright:

    GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing

    "Senate Republicans beat back an effort by Democrats Tuesday to end tax breaks for companies who send jobs offshore only to import products back into the United States."
    GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Sure I do...to counter your arguments.

    EDIT: First, you claimed that the only way the fed generated revenue was through taxes from the private sector. I reminded you that there are other ways the government makes money, i.e., via the sell of bonds and other financial instuments.

    Second, you claimed government employees don't pay taxes. My own experience proves you wrong there.

    Third, you questioned whose tax policies where costing the country. I reminded you we're still under the Bush tax cut policies (as extended by Pres. Obama).

    And before you say it, I also corrected myself concerning Clinton raising taxes.

    So, yes, I know what my points were. Problem is, you'll continue to deny your claims.
    You can edit that post all you want and I still didn't say that.
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can edit that post all you want and I still didn't say that.
    actually, you said civil-servants don't pay income & other taxes.

    this is of course, a lie.
    Last edited by Thunder; 10-31-11 at 07:21 PM.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    actually, you said civil-servants don't pay income & other taxes.

    this is of course, a lie.
    That's what I said. Thank you for agreeing that I never said that the government get's 100% of it's revenue from taxes.

    EDIT: I never said anything about other taxes. I meant income taxes.
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, its amazing alright:

    GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing

    "Senate Republicans beat back an effort by Democrats Tuesday to end tax breaks for companies who send jobs offshore only to import products back into the United States."
    GOP, U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Beat Back Bill To Combat Outsourcing
    What do you find unusual about those articles?

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