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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There is every indication that the $540 billion raised from the private sector will only be used to increase the bureaucracy, or used as venture capital to assist Barrack Obama supporters. Had what happened with Solyndra happened at Haliburton or Enron, people would have gone to jail.
    I thought you were suggesting the revenue wouldn't be significant??? Now, that I have shown that it would be, you wish to move the goalpost now? You have zero credibility for deficit reduction by calling for further sacrifice by the middle class while continuing the $540 billion a year in tax cuts to the wealthy.
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I admit my 50% rant was rather extreme, but you do get my point. The wealth imbalance in this country has to change.
    It will change alright. Everyone except the government and the unions will be poorer. Those who see the writing on the wall are already leaving and taking their money with them.

    More Rich Americans Renounce U.S. Citizenship for Lower Taxes - DailyFinance

    A Growing Trend of Leaving America - US News and World Report

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    I have tourist property in Costa Rica and see middle class and wealthier Americans arriving regularly. They may love their country for what it was but they won't bet their future on it.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I thought you were suggesting the revenue wouldn't be significant??? Now, that I have shown that it would be, you wish to move the goalpost now? You have zero credibility for deficit reduction by calling for further sacrifice by the middle class while continuing the $540 billion a year in tax cuts to the wealthy.
    You have shown it would be? I don't think you realize how much debt there, what little effect this will have on it, or what the higher taxes will mean. People will not just suffer in silence.

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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You have shown it would be? I don't think you realize how much debt there, what little effect this will have on it, or what the higher taxes will mean. People will not just suffer in silence.
    You don't consider $540 billion significant?

    It took 30 years to accumulate our massive debt. $540 billion dollars x 30 years = $16.2 trillion dollars. And that's without the spending cuts that need to be made for the military industrial complex, and in health care costs.

    By contrast, how much were the spending cuts by the GOP on public radio?

    Who are you talking about suffering from eliminating some of the tax breaks for the rich?
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But that's NOT what you said. You said:



    Your commentary did NOT address the argument you're attempting to levy now, i.e. public employee taxation does not create a net profit for government entities. To which, I ask "how do you know this to be a fact"?

    Are you taking into consideration local, state and property taxes? Can you link to any report that supports your claim that all taxes paid by public (or federal) employees is tax neutral or comes at a lose in state/federal revenue?



    Ummm...yes, you did. From your post #59 on page 6 to this thread...



    To which I responded with the sell of savings bonds by the Treasury as a way the federal government generates revenue after you went off on yet another wild tangent claiming that the "stealfromus bill" :roll raised taxes which has been proven to be false countless times. Do you still claim you never made such statements?
    That's right. Government employees don't pay taxes. The government just keeps part of their paycheck.

    As far as profitable revenue goes, there is none, as far as the government is concerned.
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm curious, apdst, who do you think set most of the tax policies the nation is following today? Moreover, whose tax plan is the nation following today?

    Here's a clue: They're not called "the Bush tax cuts" for nothing.

    And since Clinton didn't raise taxes nor initiate any significant changes in tax policy that I'm aware of during his tenure but both Reagan, Bush-I and Bush-II did, who do you think is/are the main drivers of our nation's current tax policy? Remember: Aside from the Bush tax cuts, our tax code has remained largely the same since...what...1986? And who was in office at the time?

    C'mon, man...stop with the talking heads rhetoric and think before you post!
    Do you even know what your point is?
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I admit my 50% rant was rather extreme, but you do get my point. The wealth imbalance in this country has to change.
    Raising taxes isn't going to change it.
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Because, that has never happened in the history of the US, even when taxes were much higher than anything being proposed.
    Yeah and private businesses are spending money left and right, right now. Yes?
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah and private businesses are spending money left and right, right now. Yes?
    Good point, I thought the tax cuts the GOP said had to be extended to the rich last year was going to spur the economy. I don't see it!
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    Re: ABC's "20/20 - Lessons from Billionaires: Tax ME to create jobs IN AMERICA!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Good point, I thought the tax cuts the GOP said had to be extended to the rich last year was going to spur the economy. I don't see it!
    They're not spending money, because of the threats of higher taxes and more government regulations. When Obama is voted out, things will improve by default of his absence.
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