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    Re: Injured Iraq veteran is face of Occupy movement

    Thats well after the initial exchange. Dude was already down. No one got hurt by the one tossed into the crowd. The crowd shouldnt have come back. The video you posted is seriously hacked and edited.
    Yeah they all should have just stood back and watched him die.

    Oh and nobody got hurt by the second one, really? How do you know that? And how would the cop know that the same thing that happened to Scott wouldn't happen to any of the other 10-20 demonstrators he threw that directly into?

    You're completely ****ing delusional.
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    Re: Injured Iraq veteran is face of Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The second one is obvious, Caine is ignoring that one because it is indefensible and instead focusing on the first one, that injured Scott.

    Actually, no he's not he's just whining about bottle and rock throwing and about how the protestors had the gall to defend themselves against a tear gas attack.
    You still dont get it. The police are the authority. You can piss...whine...stomp...cry...protest to your little hearts content. But when you reach the point the police say disprese, you disperse. OR DONT! But when you DONT and you choose to engage stop ****ing whining that you got your ass kicked.

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    Re: Injured Iraq veteran is face of Occupy movement

    You still dont get it. The police are the authority. You can piss...whine...stomp...cry...protest to your little hearts content. But when you reach the point the police say disprese, you disperse. OR DONT! But when you DONT and you choose to engage stop ****ing whining that you got your ass kicked.
    Then you defend Tiananmen.
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    Re: Injured Iraq veteran is face of Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Yeah they all should have just stood back and watched him die.

    Oh and nobody got hurt by the second one, really? How do you know that? And how would the cop know that the same thing that happened to Scott wouldn't happen to any of the other 10-20 demonstrators he threw that directly into?

    You're completely ****ing delusional.
    How do we know that? Because the crowd ran off. If the crowd had dispersed like they SHOULD have they could have stepped in and rendered aid. Watch the video. Dood went from the BACK fence to the front fence AFTER they were warned it was time to go. Instead of leaving they ADVANCED. And then they (and you) are STUNNED that something bad happened. You have this moronic notion that you can defy the cops without consequence. They say move and if you refuse...well...OK...you win I guess, right? What fairy tale land do you live in?

    Edit...as the protester being interviewed CLEARLY admitted. They not only advanced TOWARDS the police, but the moron protesters were throwing bottles and rocks at the police.
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    Re: Injured Iraq veteran is face of Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Then you defend Tiananmen.
    I defend Oakland. Dont be a moron. There is plenty to discuss right here. THESE protesters were booted from the park and they vowed to come back and RETAKE the park from the police. Thats just plain ****ing stupid...but OK...go for it. They were told to disperse. Instead of leaving he advanced. Bad **** happens to stupid people.

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    Re: Injured Iraq veteran is face of Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Well sonofagun...at 42 seconds into the video...unedited...she straight up admits...yep...the crowd was pelting police with rocks and bottles. And these morons INSIST...there shoudlnt have been a response...they shouldnt have used teargas to disperse the crowd. Why...its just not FAIR! They should be able to do whatever they want!

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    Re: Injured Iraq veteran is face of Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You still dont get it. The police are the authority. You can piss...whine...stomp...cry...protest to your little hearts content. But when you reach the point the police say disprese, you disperse. OR DONT! But when you DONT and you choose to engage stop ****ing whining that you got your ass kicked.
    precisely. the police here followed proper non-lethal procedures and deliberately put themselves at greater risk to protect the protestors.

    if you want to take on the police, okay, but as the man said, the state does not wield the sword in vain. you should weigh the costs before you make that call - not whine that there were costs after you make the decision.

    again, though, i don't know why we're surprised. "facing the consequences of your actions" isn't exactly a skill set found in high quantity int his crowd.

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    Re: Injured Iraq veteran is face of Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well sonofagun...at 42 seconds into the video...unedited...she straight up admits...yep...the crowd was pelting police with rocks and bottles. And these morons INSIST...there shoudlnt have been a response...they shouldnt have used teargas to disperse the crowd. Why...its just not FAIR! They should be able to do whatever they want!

    just so everyone is clear - I'll transcribe:

    Interviewer: Did you see people throwing bottles and rocks BEFORE the police started using those tactics?
    Interviewee: Um... yeah, yes, people were doing that.

    (emphasis added)

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    Re: Injured Iraq veteran is face of Occupy movement

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    precisely. the police here followed proper non-lethal procedures and deliberately put themselves at greater risk to protect the protestors.

    if you want to take on the police, okay, but as the man said, the state does not wield the sword in vain. you should weigh the costs before you make that call - not whine that there were costs after you make the decision.

    again, though, i don't know why we're surprised. "facing the consequences of your actions" isn't exactly a skill set found in high quantity int his crowd.
    What is evident is that these protesters are nothing but a bunch of spolied little ****s that dont understand choice and consequence. They bleat on about their 'rights' as if they understand them, then feel they can openly defy police and shouldnt face anything even REMOTELY resembling a consequence. Why...its not FAIR!!! They should be able to scream at the cops...throw bottles and rocks, violate the city ordinances, and orders from the city government and not only should the cops TAKE it, but they should let them win.

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    Re: Injured Iraq veteran is face of Occupy movement

    I have a right to break the law!!! I have the right to infringe upon the rights of others!!! I am the mostestest importantist person here, and you need to give me money!!!

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