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    Re: Fights erupt among Occupiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    If so, why have they had no media stars leading them (such as the Tea Party had), no mega-financing (like the buses that the Tea Party had), and not even any Porta-Potties (which the Oakland police used as justification to storm their encampment)?

    Your empty, unsubstantiated claim appears to be one of desperation. Or is it propaganda?
    It seems the city of Oakland was their Porta-Potty.

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    Re: Fights erupt among Occupiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Wrong again.

    There were more reasons than lack of port-a-pottys
    True, but the public sanitation issue the only two of your reasons that were credible/verifiable. Unless we're cracking heads for misdemeanor camping.

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    You are intentionally ignoring them to support the protesters.
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    Re: Fights erupt among Occupiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems the city of Oakland was their Porta-Potty.
    Actually it would seem there is some right wing lying on this subject:

    By the time it was raided by police during the pre-dawn hours on Monday, the tent city boasted its own kitchen and two rows of Porta Potties flanking a portable sink. But as the encampment expanded, the midday lunch rush that keeps many of the surrounding businesses afloat thinned.

    Nearby shops give mixed reports on Occupy Oakland
    So, the police claim that sanitation was a problem seems to be -- a lie? But before jumping to conclusions, let's look at other reporting on the issue:

    #OccupyOakland Panic: ‘The Potties Are Full!’

    Kyle Olson -- Oct 17, 2011

    The Occupy Oakland movement officially kicked off on Monday, October 10 at 4 pm. In a bold act of solidarity, the Oakland Education Association provided the occupiers with four Porta-Potty units, but that wasn’t enough for a movement as large as this one.

    An email obtained by Education Action Group from an Occupy Oakland leader explains the problem:

    “If you didn’t already know, OEA has pulled through and donated some funds to have porta-potties available at Occupy Oakland. … People are really grateful to see how the teachers are supporting this. However, less than a day later, the potties are already full! They cost $35 a unit to service, and there are four units. We need to gather some funds to either add more units, or to make a consistent servicing schedule throughout the occupation. … Please email me if you are able to help with monetary donations!” [...]

    #OccupyOakland Panic: Townhall.com
    "Panic", Mr. Olson says. His bio says:

    Kyle is a contributor to Townhall.com and BigGovernment.com. He has made numerous appearances on Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network, NPR and MSNBC. Kyle has given scores of interviews on talk radio programs coast to coast. His work has been cited by the Drudge Report, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.

    Kyle Olson - Conservative Columnist and Political Commentator
    Now if there is not enough humor in that, the "an email" link (reproduced below) in Mr. Olson's 'panic' story does indeed go to a PDF of what appears to be an 'official' Occupy Oakland email; said email makes no mention at all of Porta-Potties. Incompetence, or blatant propaganda? Who knows. . . . .

    http://www.publicschoolspending.com/...nd-demands.pdf

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    Re: Fights erupt among Occupiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Actually it would seem there is some right wing lying on this subject:



    So, the police claim that sanitation was a problem seems to be -- a lie? But before jumping to conclusions, let's look at other reporting on the issue:


    "Panic", Mr. Olson says. His bio says:


    Now if there is not enough humor in that, the "an email" link (reproduced below) in Mr. Olson's 'panic' story does indeed go to a PDF of what appears to be an 'official' Occupy Oakland email; said email makes no mention at all of Porta-Potties. Incompetence, or blatant propaganda? Who knows. . . . .

    http://www.publicschoolspending.com/...nd-demands.pdf
    Well whatever is happing with this protest, or their complaints behind it, it seems they are making their presence felt. Quite a difference between them and the Tea Party protesters though. If they are both fighting for the hearts and minds of Middle America I would tend to place my bets on the Tea Party people.

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    Re: Fights erupt among Occupiers

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    Got any stock tips?
    Wait you invest? Is hypocrisy a plank of progressivism? Seems so.

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    Re: Fights erupt among Occupiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems the city of Oakland was their Porta-Potty.
    Hasn't it always been?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Fights erupt among Occupiers

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    It seems the city of Oakland was their Porta-Potty.
    I have it on very good authority that none of the sainted Founding Fathers ever used a flush toilet and many went right out in the good old nature .... third bush on the left.
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    Re: Fights erupt among Occupiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    True, but the public sanitation issue the only two of your reasons that were credible/verifiable. Unless we're cracking heads for misdemeanor camping.
    No, they are forcing people out for misdemeanor camping. Those people then decide to resist... then when faced with the possibility of being physically removed, they attack the police. Sorry, you don't get to attack the police because they threaten to enforce the law on you.


    You read minds? Amazing. . . . . tell us more. Got any stock tips?
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    Re: Fights erupt among Occupiers

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    No, they are forcing people out for misdemeanor camping. Those people then decide to resist... then when faced with the possibility of being physically removed, they attack the police. Sorry, you don't get to attack the police because they threaten to enforce the law on you.
    The camping aspect is just a pretext. If they were occupying with only their bodies 24/7, they would still be removed. The reason is that we have permit systems for Freedom of Speech now, which are unconstitutional but almost universally agreed upon by those in power (both Dems and Repubs).

    If the police physically attack you, you have every damn right to defend yourself, especially if all you were doing was peacefully assembling.

    The more that the police attack people for protesting, the stronger the protest movement is going to become. You don't jackboot people and get away with it. It's time for the systemic violence to end, and I support tearing down this current system with any means necessary. If the police want violence, then I say: bring it. The world needs to be shown how brutal American domestic policy is right now when it comes to those who oppose the State.

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    Re: Fights erupt among Occupiers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So the socialist experiment in Zucatti park is breaking down into violence, and threats eh?.....This is a joke......

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