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    Re: White House backs House GOP jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    I'm thinking that we are talking about "White House backs House GOP jobs bill" and cutting spending will help create jobs by reducing our national debt.
    OK - prove reducing the national debt will create jobs.

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    Re: White House backs House GOP jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    God forbid we cut the rate of spending that got us into the mess.

    The idea is to create jobs and reducing the national debt by cutting spending would help. For every dollar cut in spending we reduce the needed revenue by three dollars because it costs us more than $.60 for the government to collect and spend a dollar.
    I'm all for cutting spending. Congress should cut the hell out of government spending. But they should do that in spending bills...not every tom, dick and harry bill that comes along.

    They need to focus, eh?
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    Re: White House backs House GOP jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    First off, let's NOT get it twisted. Of course House Republicans would vote against this tax; it takes money out of the Treasury. Funny thing is it's a tax REPUBLICANS put in place under GW Bush. Moreover, this IS NOT a jobs bill, but rather an elimination of a tax both sides agree didn't work as planned. Why? Because it was never implemented.

    So, let's not pretend that the House GOP are doing something wonderful here. They've simply taken one step to "streamline" the tax code by getting rid of something that THEY implemented but in hindsight came to understand it did not work!

    In other words, this was a TILIS moment for House Republicans.

    TILIS = Tell It Like It iS
    Well, I...for one...am happy when the Republicans realize they made a mistake and try to rectify their error. I would be happy if the Democrats did the same.
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    Re: White House backs House GOP jobs bill

    So you agree that we are not talking about attaching amendments but about creating jobs?

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    Re: White House backs House GOP jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Well, I...for one...am happy when the Republicans realize they made a mistake and try to rectify their error.
    Fine, but they shouldn't be trying to pass off repealing such tax measures THEY APPROVED as some big jobs measure when it's really not. All that's been done here is a tax has been removed that both sides agreed didn't work and, as such, should make bidding on and funding government contracts easier when approved.

    In short, by eliminating the tax it places more money in contractor's hands faster.

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    Re: White House backs House GOP jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Fine, but they shouldn't be trying to pass off repealing such tax measures THEY APPROVED as some big jobs measure when it's really not. All that's been done here is a tax has been removed that both sides agreed didn't work and, as such, should make bidding on and funding government contracts easier when approved.

    In short, by eliminating the tax it places more money in contractor's hands faster.
    Seems to me that all you mentioned makes it more likely that the contractors will need more workers and be able to hire them.

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    Re: White House backs House GOP jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    So you agree that we are not talking about attaching amendments but about creating jobs?
    Are you responding to me?

    If so, then I've been talking about both.

    1. "White House backs GOP jobs bill"

    2. "Senate Republicans tried to pass a similar bill last week, but the administration opposed that version, arguing against the $30 billion in spending cuts the GOP attached to the measure."
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    Re: White House backs House GOP jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Fine, but they shouldn't be trying to pass off repealing such tax measures THEY APPROVED as some big jobs measure when it's really not. All that's been done here is a tax has been removed that both sides agreed didn't work and, as such, should make bidding on and funding government contracts easier when approved.

    In short, by eliminating the tax it places more money in contractor's hands faster.
    Do you disagree with Obama on this?

    "The White House said repealing the withholding will leave businesses with more cash to invest and create jobs at a time when the economy is still struggling."
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    Re: White House backs House GOP jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Do you disagree with Obama on this?

    "The White House said repealing the withholding will leave businesses with more cash to invest and create jobs at a time when the economy is still struggling."
    I don't disagree with it at all. I'm just saying that the House GOP shouldn't be trying to pass this measure off as a "jobs bill" when all they did was eliminate a tax neither side wanted to continue.

    Will eliminating the tax put more money in the hands of contractors and their employees? Yes, absolutely.

    Will releasing this revenue allow contractors to hire more workers or purchase more equipment? Yes, absolutely.

    But this isn't a jobs bill; it's simply a tax rule change and nothing more.
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    Re: White House backs House GOP jobs bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't disagree with it at all. I'm just saying that the House GOP shouldn't be trying to pass this measure off as a "jobs bill" when all they did was eliminate a tax neither side wanted to continue.

    Will eliminating the tax put more money in the hands of contractors and their employees? Yes, absolutely.

    Will releasing this revenue allow contractors to hire more workers or purchase more equipment? Yes, absolutely.

    But this isn't a jobs bill; it's simply a tax rule change and nothing more.
    Ummm...

    You focus on the House GOP. Why is that? You DO realize that Obama is calling this a "jobs bill", as well, right? I haven't seen you say that Obama shouldn't be trying to pass this measure off as a jobs bill. Perhaps you can only bring yourself to criticize the GOP?

    Anyway...be that as it may. Let's talk about your agreement that this bill will help increase hiring...but your refusal to call this a jobs bill. Sure, it's a tax rule change, but if the aim is to increase hiring then it IS a jobs bill. It doesn't have to have some fancy, jobs-relating name to be called a jobs bill, don't you think? Or DO you think it need a fancy name?

    A rose is a rose, eh?
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