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    Re: Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

    I am shocked to discover that a government protecting a peoples rights can actually cost money!!!!!

    Who ever would have thunk it?????
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    Re: Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

    This was dropped on the Occupy protestors in Chicago.

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    Re: Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

    They don't seem to realize most Americans don't work for government, most Americans clock much more than 40 hours a week, and most Americans aren't unionized. That's what reading too much Atlas Shrugged and being out of touch will create.
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    Re: Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    But they have a common rallying call which is firmly set against the entanglement of State and Corporate entities.

    I fear that in some people's zeal to politicize this into a nice category for dismissal, they don't actually look at what's being called for. Rather they want to belittle the protest and try to portray it as impotent and lacking common cause. However, anyone who is actually going to look at the data clearly comes across the common theme of OWS; that being the gross entanglement of State and Corporation has led to a stiffing of economic mobility and unfair practices in which corporations most entangled with the State are given preferential treatment.

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    OWS is impotent and lacking in a common cause or direction or any understanding of what their slogans mean. While it may well be true that some of them share your conspiracy theories about collusion between the government and large companies being responsible for the financial crisis and recession, your contention that many of them share you belief or concern that this has diminished competition or that they long for the myth of free market capitalism is no more than wishful thinking of your part.

    No matter how many times you invoke the mantra of corporate capitalism, it is still no more than a meaningless slogan. If you put down your propaganda pamphlets for a moment and think about what you are saying, you'll see it is really the size of the business enterprises you are complaining about, not whether they are publicly held corporations or privately owned and that to preserve competition you would have to prevent the formation of monopolies which would require government regulation. What data is available, and it is scant and scattered, suggests that the most widely held preferences among OWS are socialism or some variant of a social welfare state and not any form of capitalism.

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    Re: Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchtime_ View Post
    OWS is impotent and lacking in a common cause or direction or any understanding of what their slogans mean. While it may well be true that some of them share your conspiracy theories about collusion between the government and large companies being responsible for the financial crisis and recession, your contention that many of them share you belief or concern that this has diminished competition or that they long for the myth of free market capitalism is no more than wishful thinking of your part.

    No matter how many times you invoke the mantra of corporate capitalism, it is still no more than a meaningless slogan. If you put down your propaganda pamphlets for a moment and think about what you are saying, you'll see it is really the size of the business enterprises you are complaining about, not whether they are publicly held corporations or privately owned and that to preserve competition you would have to prevent the formation of monopolies which would require government regulation. What data is available, and it is scant and scattered, suggests that the most widely held preferences among OWS are socialism or some variant of a social welfare state and not any form of capitalism.
    This seems nothing more than propaganda aimed at decreasing thought about the problem and to easily categorize something as dismissible.
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    Re: Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This seems nothing more than propaganda aimed at decreasing thought about the problem and to easily categorize something as dismissible.
    Since that's what you do with all criticisms of OWS or any of your own ideas, it makes sense that it is all you'd be able to understand from some one else's posts.

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    Re: Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchtime_ View Post
    Since that's what you do with all criticisms of OWS or any of your own ideas, it makes sense that it is all you'd be able to understand from some one else's posts.
    Are you trying to be ironic?
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    Re: Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

    Adbusters is a local Vancouver group which has been behind the OWS movement all along.

    That a small Canadian website can get the American left all worked up is really quite remarkable. They are not having the same effect here in Canada, though they are certainly trying.

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    Re: Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    They don't seem to realize most Americans don't work for government, most Americans clock much more than 40 hours a week, and most Americans aren't unionized. That's what reading too much Atlas Shrugged and being out of touch will create.
    Sssssssooooo, you think this fraud of a response in letter photo'd and pasted on some message board is written by a conservative? Why is that?

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    Re: Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This seems nothing more than propaganda aimed at decreasing thought about the problem and to easily categorize something as dismissible.
    If you can elaborate on any of the OWS slogans and how they might be put into action, with the 99% approval rate of the people of course, then perhaps you can do it here.

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