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    Re: Florida welfare benefit drug test law blocked

    I don't see why it would matter to people. It's not unconstitutional. No one is forcing people to provide urine, they are setting guidelines for assistance. If your not on drugs, urinating in a cup is a small price to pay to feed your children. Rather than being upset that they have to follow guidelines to get the free money they should be grateful that they are getting money/food/rent/utilities all for nothing. Requiring welfare recipients to be drug free is just plain smart. Chances of getting off of welfare are going to be much better if your not smoking meth every afternoon.

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    Re: Florida welfare benefit drug test law blocked

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I don't see why it would matter to people. It's not unconstitutional. No one is forcing people to provide urine, they are setting guidelines for assistance. If your not on drugs, urinating in a cup is a small price to pay to feed your children. Rather than being upset that they have to follow guidelines to get the free money they should be grateful that they are getting money/food/rent/utilities all for nothing. Requiring welfare recipients to be drug free is just plain smart. Chances of getting off of welfare are going to be much better if your not smoking meth every afternoon.
    Your first sentence questions why it should matter to people, implying that it shouldn't, then you go on to explain why it should matter to people. Which is it?

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    Re: Florida welfare benefit drug test law blocked

    You can dwell over the wording if you'd like. I don't play that game. What I said is pretty clear. If your having problems with comprehension, please consult a local community college.

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    Re: Florida welfare benefit drug test law blocked

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    You can dwell over the wording if you'd like. I don't play that game. What I said is pretty clear. If your having problems with comprehension, please consult a local community college.
    Translation:

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    Re: Florida welfare benefit drug test law blocked

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Funny how if you want to get money from the tax payers by working for it IE a government job it is not unconstitutional for them to require you to pee in a cup.But if you want to get money from the tax payer and not do anything to earn it then its unconstitutional to require you to pee in a cup.
    I heard on the radio that it wasn't tha straightforward. Apparently, the results are not treated as medical records and are forwarded to the police.
    idk if that's true, but that's what I remember hearing.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Florida welfare benefit drug test law blocked

    I am conflicted. On one hand, someone who is receiving assistance at the expense of...me...well, I would like to know for sure that it does not go to someone who needs that assistance because they squander their other means on drugs. However, having said that, they are only testing for ILLEGAL drugs...and the ones that cost most people the most are the legal ones...cigarettes and booze. But you can drink as much as you want, and smoke as much as you want, on state assistance programs. Which I find to be a slap to my face....however...

    I also feel that what someone does in their own home is their own damn business. That goes for the job market, as well. I don't like being told what I can or can't do while I'm not at work, BY my work. I understand what they do this...in order to avoid trouble AT work. But I feel like I say this a lot around here...punish the crime that's committed, not the crime that MIGHT be committed. Fire me for showing up to work high, or for doing a poor job due to being strung out, or something. Don't fire me because I might want to smoke a little dope at home, while not on the clock.

    But whatever. This is no surprise to me.
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    Re: Florida welfare benefit drug test law blocked

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
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    How so? That doesnt even make sense.

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    Re: Florida welfare benefit drug test law blocked

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Highway View Post
    This whole thing was a ruse to begin with. All it was doing was putting a band aid on a problem that needs surgery. Like the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty/Great Society has failed epically, the only solution to the welfare problem is nixing it entirely.
    That's crazy because all the numbers I've seen have shown poverty rates decreasing drastically since the 1950's.
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

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    Re: Florida welfare benefit drug test law blocked

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    That's crazy because all the numbers I've seen have shown poverty rates decreasing drastically since the 1950's.
    I haven't checked this out yet, but it appeared in a google search and I thoughtthe similarity to your post was worth noting

    More Americans living in poverty in 2010 than since 1950s: Census | TopNews
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Florida welfare benefit drug test law blocked

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I haven't checked this out yet, but it appeared in a google search and I thoughtthe similarity to your post was worth noting

    More Americans living in poverty in 2010 than since 1950s: Census | TopNews
    Sure, the total number is higher but the rates are much lower. In the 1950's it was around 22% of Americans, now it's closer to 15% in the middle of a recession.
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

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