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    Re: Chemical bomb tossed into Occupy Maine encampment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let's not act like something like that has never happened before.
    Nor should you act like you have anything amounting to reasonable suspicion or proof over that accusation either.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Chemical bomb tossed into Occupy Maine encampment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nor should you act like you have anything amounting to reasonable suspicion or proof over that accusation either.
    One way or the other...right?

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    Re: Chemical bomb tossed into Occupy Maine encampment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, I imagine it has. Espeicially since your movement was proven to be crap by, um, yourself.

    Wanna talk about all those TP'ers that were arrested, again?
    And just how have I proven that? By agreeing that there have been arrest not because the Occupy protesters have been violent, but rather because they've violated minor civil ordinance laws, i.e., assembling in a public place beyond established curfew or blocking pedestrian/automotive traffic on a major roadway? That doesn't prove that the movement is crap. It just proves that people are willing to stand up for what they believe in and protest using non-violent actions.

    I would buy your argument IF events were panning out akin to the riots and police brutality from the Civil Rights era, but have you seen people being beaten with night sticks? Or cops using attack dogs and fire hoses to disperse the crowds? Have you seen the protesters themselves lash out in violence against local law enforcement? Have you seen people resisting arrest?

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    Re: Chemical bomb tossed into Occupy Maine encampment

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    The OWS people are all drugged up perverts.
    Sounds like jealousy to me!
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    Re: Chemical bomb tossed into Occupy Maine encampment

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    When you have apposing voices lets listen to the voice that produces wealth for our country and ignore the voice that is a little slurred by drugs and lack of sleep, who is wanting us to give them more drugs and not wake them up so early.
    As I've already pointed out, those who oppose this movement are only going by what they see in the news from the NYC protests; you're not looking at the other protests that aren't on Wall Street. Even still, not everyone among the NYC protesters are as what's being depicted on television. As stated just a few posts back, many of these people are ordinary citizens from various backgrounds. Some are indeed poor; others are just barely getting by financially. And still others are doing pretty good for themselves. But they're all upset with what's taking place between Corporate American and Congress and they want the corruption and inequality to stop! It's really not that difficult to see unless you're purposely trying to ignore it.

    What would that be from the TEA Party people?
    A fine example of what I'm talking about; clearly, you've ignored all the racist signs and other visceral language used at some Tea Party rallies before they got their foot in Congress. Not saying that the entire movement was like that, but even Herman Cain has recently admitted that there are some racist elements among the Tea Party. If he can admit it, why can't you? And he's Black!!!

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    Re: Chemical bomb tossed into Occupy Maine encampment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course, because your attempt at, "The Tea Party did it too!", turned into a smack down for you.
    What smack down? I openly admitted I could find no articles that conclusively pointed to a Tea Partier being arrested during their rallies. The one article I did find that eluded to such turned out to be misleading, and the individual who pointed it out to me - we both agreed on the matter at hand and let it go. So, where's the smack down in that?

    Communism and Socialism don't have merit, IMO.

    But, go right ahead and discuss their merits. I would love to see them, because so far, they haven't been presented.
    Over-hyped partisanship... But again, all you have to do is read the Declaration and accept my challenge to post articles that address the greivences it addresses. But you won't because you know there is validity in their arguments.

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    Re: Chemical bomb tossed into Occupy Maine encampment

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Not really. The bottle can't explode until you cap the bottle.


    It's basic 8th grade chemistry.

    2Al + 2NaOH + 6H2O -> 2Na+ + 2[Al(OH)4]- + 3H2

    All you need is common houshold items generally found in your mom's kitchen. Draino from under the sink(NaOH), aluminium foil (Al) and water (H2O).

    As you can see by the equation this chemical reaction produces a lot of hydrogen gas (H2)

    When you put a cap on the bottle the hydrogen gas pressure builds up in the bottle until.... BOOM!

    The thing is, there is still going to be some lye left over when the bottle bursts. Since sodium hydroxide is very caustic, if it gets in your eyes you are going to have a really bad day. Wear safety goggles. And no smoking.
    As I read this, I'm thinking...

    "Thanks for the chemistry lesson."

    ...And...

    Damn! Been a looooooong time since I played with my chemistry set. Maybe I need to break out the periodic table and have a refresher! LOL

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    Re: Chemical bomb tossed into Occupy Maine encampment

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    As I've already pointed out, those who oppose this movement are only going by what they see in the news from the NYC protests; you're not looking at the other protests that aren't on Wall Street.
    Is that so? So I'm not paying any attention to the mountain of refuse that is inhabiting part of the Rose Kennedy Greenway in Boston right now? I'm not paying any attention to the theft, the heroin distribution, the rampant disorder and uncleanliness that's going on in Beantown? Or is that $2 Million that the City of Boston has spent on dealing with those morons nothing more than Thomas Menino's way of stocking his own re-election fund?

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    Re: Chemical bomb tossed into Occupy Maine encampment

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    When you have apposing voices lets listen to the voice that produces wealth for our country and ignore the voice that is a little slurred by drugs and lack of sleep, who is wanting us to give them more drugs and not wake them up so early.




    What would that be from the TEA Party people?
    Well, there's this guy:

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    Re: Chemical bomb tossed into Occupy Maine encampment

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    You know, I've actually tried to do that.... The only problem is that I can't seem to find them. Occupy Worcester (MA), has less than 100 individuals "attending", despite being based in the second largest (population) city in New England. A city that boasts nearly a dozen colleges and universities, including Liberal bastions like Clark and Becker and schools where the kids come out with massive debt bills like Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI). Instead of "Occupying" the Worcester Common (right behind city hall) these people have relegated themselves to Lake Park, which is literally about as far outside of where ANYONE in the City would ever see them as possible. They didn't even have the balls to resist when the Worcester PD threw them off the Common the one night they attempted to stay there.

    I mock the Occupiers the same way I mock the Tea Partiers.... Give me a call when you people are ready to pick up the pitchforks, torches, and rifles. Until you're actually ready to DO something, get the hell out of the way of those of us who have lives we have to deal with. If you block the street in front of my car you're going to get run over, and I might just back up to make sure I got the job done right the first time.
    There were only about 100 or so people who showed up at my local Occupy rally, too. But it hasn't stopped me from supporting them in other ways, i.e., getting to know others in my area who are involved and sharing ideas on how to focus their message, getting people to do speaking engagements to address the issues we all face, sending emails or Tweets concerning the movement, etc. Like you, initially I stood back and watched as things unfolded but after researching each point and finding more indepth information on the issues, I decided I could no longer just stand by and do nothing because I began to realize that I, too, am affected by the decisions made by a Congress that has become greatly influenced by the clout and power of corporate entities.

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