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    Re: WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close

    Ironic that some are celebrating this, when it was basically done via corporate collusion. If they can block legal financial transactions over this, they could do it to anyone. This is why money should not be placed under the authority of the major institutions. They abuse their powers far too easily.

    If their organization shuts down it will be a serious blow to transparency and freedom of information. I hope they can figure out a way to survive.

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    Re: WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Ironic that some are celebrating this, when it was basically done via corporate collusion. If they can block legal financial transactions over this, they could do it to anyone. This is why money should not be placed under the authority of the major institutions. They abuse their powers far too easily.

    If their organization shuts down it will be a serious blow to transparency and freedom of information. I hope they can figure out a way to survive.
    I don't understand......why do they need all this financing to release information? What have they released that has actually made a difference? I'd be all for blowing the lid off of things, but I just do not see that happening. To me, wikileaks has been one big dud. The biggest exposure is that diplomats talk bad about each other in private.

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    Re: WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I don't understand......why do they need all this financing to release information? What have they released that has actually made a difference? I'd be all for blowing the lid off of things, but I just do not see that happening. To me, wikileaks has been one big dud. The biggest exposure is that diplomats talk bad about each other in private.
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    Re: WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    ...If they can block legal financial transactions over this, they could do it to anyone. This is why money should not be placed under the authority of the major institutions. They abuse their powers far too easily...
    If Wikileaks can get into private government data, "they could do it to anyone." That's an abuse too.
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    Re: WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Ironic that some are celebrating this, when it was basically done via corporate collusion. If they can block legal financial transactions over this, they could do it to anyone. This is why money should not be placed under the authority of the major institutions. They abuse their powers far too easily.

    If their organization shuts down it will be a serious blow to transparency and freedom of information. I hope they can figure out a way to survive.
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    Re: WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Ironic that some are celebrating this, when it was basically done via corporate collusion. If they can block legal financial transactions over this, they could do it to anyone.
    You realize this exact same slippery slope argument could be applied to Wikileaks practices of releasing private information into the public. If they can do it to banks or the government they could do it to you.

    Before long they could be posting about how someone crapped their pants or went bass to mouth, and then we'd need to have a gerbal take down the site along with the catatafish


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    Re: WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close

    Yeah - I'm more disturbed about how a citizen can decide to hack into their private info - could be anyone's.

    You know who else does that kind of stuff: Identity thieves and other dregs of society.
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    Re: WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close

    I have seen no evidence, at all, of wiki leaks going after private citizens, only corporations and governments. I just now HAVE seen evidence of a collusion between said corporations and governments to shut down an outlet for free speech.


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    Re: WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I have seen no evidence, at all, of wiki leaks going after private citizens, only corporations and governments. I just now HAVE seen evidence of a collusion between said corporations and governments to shut down an outlet for free speech.


    Naturally, statists in both parties celebrate.
    So - government cannot control money that it produces and regulates? The power of the banks IS granted to our government.

    The government isn't subverting their 'free speech' - that was permitted to continue. but they did subvert control over the cash-king . . . which I find to be humorous and ironic: in their (wiki's) attempt to spite the government the government took control over the one aspect that wiki relied on - the one aspect of things that the government can control without interference.

    Who's going ot defend wiki? A government appointed attorney since they can't afford their own?
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    Re: WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close

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    Saying that "an arbitrary and unlawful financial blockade ... has destroyed 95 percent of our revenue," WikiLeaks has suspended publishing operations and founder Julian Assange says it may have to shut down permanently by year's end.
    The whistle-blowing operation is famous for its uncovering of U.S. diplomatic cables and other materials that governments and corporations wanted to keep secret. But the decision by some U.S.-based financial institutions, including Visa, MasterCard, Western Union and PayPal, to block would-be donors from using their networks to give WikiLeaks money has dramatically reduced its ability to raise funds. Those institutions took those actions after the leaking of the State Department cables.
    Now, WikiLeaks says in a statement, it has been "forced to temporarily suspend its publishing operations and aggressively fundraise in order to fight back against this blockade and its proponents."
    And Assange said today, according to The Associated Press, that "if WikiLeaks does not find a way to remove this blockade we will simply not be able to continue by the turn of the new year. If we don't knock down the blockade we simply will not be able to continue."

    WikiLeaks Suspends Operations, May Have To Close : The Two-Way : NPR
    Ok, so Wiki hacked BofA, or threatened they had, Bank of America prepares for worst as Wikileaks threatens damaging document release - Forbes and we should be surprised that other banking/financial institutions no longer want to facilitate their efforts? I must be missing something here.
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