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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    apparently the Iraqi govt. refused to guaruntee that American troops would not be prosecuted for war-crimes in Iraqi courts. this seems to have helped motivate Obama's decision.
    Took you all the way until post #32 to realize this fact brought to us by the original post? Why even bother commenting if you can't bring yourself to finish reading the OP's quoted summary on post #1.
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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think it's funny that people view Obama as a humble competent leader.
    I don't think he's very competent at all. It's just that the Republicans aren't fielding much better.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Which companies are you referring to?

    Do you really believe there will be no munitions used because "America's war" is over?
    I'm saying that private military contractors and weapon systems companies and warplane manufacturers have a vested interest in ensuring that wars happening so that they may profit by them via government contracts.

    Which is made all the worse considering that Congressmen may decide on these defense contracts while remaining shareholders in companies competing (or sometimes not) for a contract. Even though the staff of Congressmen and members of an executive agency are barred from owning shares in such companies while serving their country.

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    Iran is already making its move and it appears that the fragile democracy in Iraq will be lost and all those lives and treasure will have been wasted and all, it appears, for strictly domestic political purposes.
    Well, as has been pointed out, the troop withdrawal is not strictly because of domestic political purposes. They are being withdrawn because Iraq refuses to continue immunity from prosecution for war crimes for U.S. soldiers.

    But let's say that wasn't a factor. It is silly to say that foreign policy and domestic policy exist in a vacuum from each other. If our domestic well-being has suffered from the current recession that does not mean our foreign policy goes unaffected. After all, if we can pay for the basics of our domestic policies, such as education and transportation infrastructure, it is insane to suggest that we can continue to pay for a war like we did before the recession.
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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't think he's very competent at all. It's just that the Republicans aren't fielding much better.
    I have decided that Paul would do the least harm
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I have decided that Paul would do the least harm
    Yeah, for Chinese and Russian policies.
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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I have decided that Paul would do the least harm
    He's certainly the most conservative candidate of the bunch.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Obama is crazy in my opinion, most of the GOP contenders are much more sensible than him.
    Um... which ones, exactly?

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq - CNN.com


    In a short speech delivered minutes ago, President Obama said our remaining forces in Iraq will be home for the coming holidays


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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    How long until Iran goes to war with Iraq for the 100th time?
    They're already attacking Iraq.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    A moot point. Both governments acknowledge the pullout. The US and Iraq could not agree on legal immunity for US military personnel in-theater. Remaining in Iraq would have exposed American soldiers to possible arrest, prosecution, and penalties under Iraqi civil/criminal laws. Such a situation is untenable.
    That's just a ridiculous excuse. All Americans everywhere are subject to local laws and have never had diplomatic immunity.

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