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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    That's what is called "historical revisionism".
    No, it's called truth.

    Really? Who did the pushing?
    First the rebals, the Lybian people. Then I think the french were the ones pushing for intervention. Do you need a link?

    In fact it is an excellent investment and makes full use use of the US advantage of high technology.
    Explain. What technology? For what purpose?

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it's called truth.
    We'll call it your truth, okay?


    First the rebals, the Lybian people. Then I think the french were the ones pushing for intervention. Do you need a link?
    Barrack Obama takes his orders from the French and the Libyan people? When did that start? Wasn;' Congress supposed to get involved in these decisions also?
    Explain. What technology? For what purpose?
    Did you know that the United States has enemies in the Middle East?

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And this means what? Comparing what? Germany is a country, quite capable of surrendering. Islamofascism is not. There is no one to surrender. No one to invade. The ilitary is simply limited in what it can do to fight such a conflict. in fact, it is too large, too cumbersome, too blunt an insturment to be effective.

    Again, I ask as related to this conflict what does winning look like? What are the metrics?
    The terrorists have to live somewhere and if any government harbors terrorists out to murder Americans or their Allies then they become enemies of the United States and will suffer accordingly. In fact it was George Bush, shortly after 9/11, who first articulated that idea.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    We'll call it your truth, okay?
    No, the truth. There is really no serious debate about it.

    Barrack Obama takes his orders from the French and the Libyan people? When did that start? Wasn;' Congress supposed to get involved in these decisions also?
    No one said that at all. Try again.

    I prefer congress declare war, but congress did sign agreements with the UN, so the question is does the president need approval each time they keep the agreement iwht the UN? I for one would like the president to, but I'm not sure there isn't a legal point that that says it isn't needed. however, for OUR purpose, I don't argue that Obama shouldn't have had to go before congress. i prefer a declaration of war before we start killing folks.

    Did you know that the United States has enemies in the Middle East?
    Yep, but that doesn't answer what I asked you. Are you trying to divert away frm the question?

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Fighting to win is the solution.
    In theory I agree, but "winning" isn't the same concept that it was only 50 years ago.

    Besides, we don't have the guts to do what it takes to win anymore, anyway.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    In theory I agree, but "winning" isn't the same concept that it was only 50 years ago.

    Besides, we don't have the guts to do what it takes to win anymore, anyway.
    Relate it to what we're doing and define winning for me. ;coffeepap

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    In theory I agree, but "winning" isn't the same concept that it was only 50 years ago.

    Besides, we don't have the guts to do what it takes to win anymore, anyway.
    It's your second statement that is spot on. Now Americans are more worried about someone getting hurt, a concern that doesn't bother your enemies.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Relate it to what we're doing and define winning for me. ;coffeepap
    That's another problem for too many Americans. They need 'winning' defined for them.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's another problem for too many Americans. They need 'winning' defined for them.
    I know what winning is in a football game. Most things have winning clearly defined. I suspect many who support iraq only know the word, but not what it means. If they did, this would be an easy question.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's your second statement that is spot on. Now Americans are more worried about someone getting hurt, a concern that doesn't bother your enemies.
    Nonsense. I don't want to spend lives for nothing, something not worth spending a life on, but if the need is real, I'd spend my own. I think more should treat the spending of other people's livess more like it was their own.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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