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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    BBC reported a different account of what happened:



    It sounds to me like Obama considered staying (which does bother me), but didn't for whatever reason. Regardless, I'm happy and I could really care less why we're leaving.
    Without the immunity to local laws the US would not stay in Iraq or any country where US soldiers would be subject to local laws and punishement
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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    probably to save face imo but was anything mention about the personnel leaving there or just the troops? To lazy to read the story atm.
    Everybody's leaving except for the military members who are guarding the US embassy.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Bush gets us into a war, Obama gets us out of it. Well, well.

    Oh and look at how he handled Libya.


    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    large-scale American involvment. Dictator Qhaddafi dead.

    not one American dead or injured. Good job Obama.
    yep, and throw in sacking Bin Laden for good measure. The Republicans are tongue-tied trying to be critical of Obama foreign policy. In fact, Obama has been pretty effective in areas where he did not obstructionist Regressives trying to subvert American progress.
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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Everybody's leaving except for the military members who are guarding the US embassy.
    so I assume the Vatican vacant?



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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    BBC reported a different account of what happened:



    It sounds to me like Obama considered staying (which does bother me), but didn't for whatever reason. Regardless, I'm happy and I could really care less why we're leaving.
    The Obama administration has been working hard since at least July 2011 to make sure that there was going to be a residual force left behind after the of 2011. They failed with their negotiation. Instead of being honest, Obama chalks this up as one of his campaign promises. This is flat-out dishonesty.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    You can do better than to come up with such an old and lame argument. We all appreciate original thought and insight.
    Announcing when you are going to withdraw troops from a combat zone s certainly an original thought and one that is quite modern.

    At one time it was assumed that the troops would be withdrawn when the battle was won but now one side in the war apparently feels they can dictate the terms of when the fighting stops and everyone goes home. But as 9/11 demonstrated, with modern technology, things are seldom that easy.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    But if we did that then how would those who hold stocks in companies of the defense industry maintain their profit margins?
    here's how: they are sending employees over. whatever our troops were doing, defense contractors are taking over. my brother heads out this week.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Announcing when you are going to withdraw troops from a combat zone s certainly an original thought and one that is quite modern.

    At one time it was assumed that the troops would be withdrawn when the battle was won but now one side in the war apparently feels they can dictate the terms of when the fighting stops and everyone goes home. But as 9/11 demonstrated, with modern technology, things are seldom that easy.
    Heres the thing about winning a war. Once you have won the war you have to decide what role you are going to play. Are you a conqueror? then we should have populated Iraq and kicked them out. Where you at war to vanquish an enemy? In this case yes, so with the ouster of Saddam, we really have no choice but to either occupy or leave. We should leave when the country has had time to secure itself. We have done that. The now 'host' country wants us to leave. All is well. If they arent ready to take over their country then in short order they will be a giant smoking hole. that will be on them for squandering 8 years of post war cooperation and training.

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    Re: Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiderivative View Post
    The Obama administration has been working hard since at least July 2011 to make sure that there was going to be a residual force left behind after the of 2011. They failed with their negotiation. Instead of being honest, Obama chalks this up as one of his campaign promises. This is flat-out dishonesty.
    But good politicing. Points to Obama.

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