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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    The protesters don't own the land. It's a public park governed by police powers they consent to.
    Perhaps the judge considers the protester to be members of the public. :shrug
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

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    Judges swear to uphold the law and defend the Constitution.
    Wrong again.

    http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/Judici...dates/oath.pdf


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    (This I do as I shall answer unto God.)
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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Perhaps the judge considers the protester to be members of the public. :shrug
    other members of the public who stayed in the park after the closing time were told to leave by the cops or ticketed. I know, for several years I was a county prosecutor in the same court rooms where the city solicitors tried misdemeanor cases and at least a couple times a week someone was there for similar violations.

    the question is what gives these turds the right to disobey a law?

    What I want to know is how this case ended up in front of CJ DLott. normally cases are "rolled" by random assignment but sometimes things are different



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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Lots of people hate the rich and blame them for being failures
    And you're making that allegation against your fellow posters in this thread.
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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Now, as to the other points raised by posters to this thread:

    The freedoms of speech and assembly are not limitless. Reasonable time, place and manner restrictions are constitutional, under a line of decisions dating back at least 100 years. The City of Cincinnati is not some bohunk municipality with three used car salesmen as its councilmen; it has a well-staffed legal department who write and review the ordinances the city adopts.

    I don't have the TRO, or the petition for it, so I don't know what constitutional issues the OWS'ers raised as to the city's ordinances regarding park closing times. However, I can assure you that there had to be some or else jurisdiction would not have been available to get this heard in federal court.

    I also don't know which park they're occupying. Here's a link to a map showing where all such parks are located:

    Cincinnati Parks - All Cincinnati Park Locations - CincyParks.com

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    And you're making that allegation against your fellow posters in this thread.
    who are you referring to? I was talking about the scumbags messing up a public park and harming the nearby businesses by their silly temper tantrums



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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Also, most Cincinnati city parks have events scheduled for the next couple of weeks, so people can enjoy Halloween, or the fall color, or whatnot -- especially since winter is coming.

    Are the folks who wanted to attend such events relegated to the "less important" pile because the OWS'ers want to face off with the city and pee in the bushes? In other words, what about the rights of the people who hoped to use these parks as parks?

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    who are you referring to? I was talking about the scumbags messing up a public park and harming the nearby businesses by their silly temper tantrums
    My mistake then.

    I assumed that Reg was talking about the posters here and that you were too.
    It was a different "you people."

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    Why can't you people side with law enforcement? What the hell kind of untouchables do you think you are?
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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    And you're making that allegation against your fellow posters in this thread.
    Are you Occupying Cincinnati, Simon?

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    Re: Federal Judge Orders Cincinnati Not To Ticket OWS'ers

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Are the folks who wanted to attend such events relegated to the "less important" pile because the OWS'ers want to face off with the city and pee in the bushes? In other words, what about the rights of the people who hoped to use these parks as parks?
    I don't think it's a final ruling. I have the impression that it's just until there is a decision that the judge is erring on the side of allowing expression.
    doesn't mean that the judge won't find against the protesters.
    I may be wrong.

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